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        04-11-2012, 05:13 PM
      #121
    Trained
    I just googled his name-they have posted this video in more places. UGH. Crazy people.
         
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        04-11-2012, 05:15 PM
      #122
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    Originally Posted by jumanji321    
    Yes they can because if the video was taken without his permission and posted, I believe it violates his rights.
    Uh, no. It doesn't violate ANY of his rights.

    It might be a violation of Youtube policy, which is FAR, FAR from a violation of law or civil rights.

    Most people think they have far more rights than they actually do. And when you do something in public, your image is not yours. You have ZERO expectation of privacy in a public place and there is plenty of legal precedent to back that up.

    You can be photographed in public all day long. You can be video recorded in public all day long. And if the recording is not done in a surrepetitious manner, you can be audio recorded as well in virtually all states.
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        04-11-2012, 05:17 PM
      #123
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    Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
    If I ever found a video of myself like that on youtube I would have a few words to say to the uploader. I'm sure some natural horsemanship extremist will eventually try and nail me for using an over and under when I barrel race. That'll be a fun day.
    What are you going to say? What are you going to do? You have no legal expectation of privacy in public.

    Get physical with the person doing the recording and YOU go to jail on assault charges.
         
        04-11-2012, 05:18 PM
      #124
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    Originally Posted by Easter    
    I agree there needs to be a law.
    Good luck with that.
         
        04-11-2012, 05:23 PM
      #125
    Yearling
    I rarely post on threads like these, but I feel the need to do so today.
    I see a heavy handed person in the video. I see him yanking the horses mouth. Do I think all reiner's ride like this guy, NO! Do I think this guy is an idiot, depends on if he yanks this horses mouth all the time at this degree of force.

    This is like any other equestrian sport. There is the good, the bad, and the ****ed ugly. It happens everywhere. I hope if he left marks in that horse's mouth that they threw him out on his ear. I hope the warm up that I saw on youtube with the chick doing the yank and crank on her jumpers mouth got tossed like an old shoe. I hope the jockey with the heavy crop hand got his butt kicked. I hope the idiot in the back yard cracking her ponies jaw while jumping a 55 gallon drum got tossed off the saintly pony.
    I hope those who deal with horses in a manner I personally find distasteful suffer like their horses do. But the bottom line to me is the one word, PERSONAL. It's my personal opinion expressed on a public forum.
    We can all agree to disagree and keep posting, or leave in a huff. This forum has lost some really knowledgeable people, since I joined, over stupid stuff like this. I miss reading a lot of peoples ideas, opinions, and knowledgeable posts. I'd hate to see even more go because we all get a little heated sometimes.
    There is a post from yesterday, well actually several over the last few days, that I started and then deleted because I knew I couldn't keep my posts helpful and constructive.
    I do love to see a good debate though. Check out the hoof section. There are several people with very different ideals there. So far, I have learned a lot from them. And for the most part they keep debating and teaching me all the while.
    This thread has shown me that while I might consider this video questionable, obviously, some do not. So I went searching for answers. I HOPE some other folks did too.
    I'll say this, reining horses are some AWESOMELY trained animals. If I could spin like that I'd be a world class ballerina!
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        04-11-2012, 05:25 PM
      #126
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    Originally Posted by mildot    
    Good luck with that.
    You know.. technically I AM a child. I am 14 years old. I enjoy being educated and learning new things, but the constantly sarcastic tone of your fourm posts is NOT necessary .. pardon my saying.
         
        04-11-2012, 05:29 PM
      #127
    Started
    I agree, I am a minor as well. I did not state it does without a doubt violate his rights. I don't know why you've chosen to be so rude to everyone but it's really immature of you to be constantly harping at everyone without at least trying to be mature about it.

    ETA: With that, I am no longer going to post on this thread so I can avoid starting a major conflict.
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        04-11-2012, 05:36 PM
      #128
    Trained
    Mildot if someone at any point in time thought I was "abusing" my horse and posted the video on youtube, my "choice words" would not be to change their mind or make them take it down...But more along the lines of making myself feel better. They can rant back to me all they want about how I am such a horrible person, but as long as my view is repesented for them to think about my point is across. Perhaps that's a new way to think about it, but very rarely do I do anything that does not benefit my peace of mind. Thank god no one ever thinks I'm a horse abuser (Yet, but I heard the PETA people are back around these days.)

    Though, if anyone ever was to find a way to stop all the annoying abuse videos I wouldn't say no.

    [Also agreeing with the two above posters, though I'm sure we can do nothing to stop you anyhow.]
         
        04-11-2012, 05:40 PM
      #129
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    Originally Posted by jumanji321    
    I agree, I am a minor as well. I did not state it does without a doubt violate his rights. I don't know why you've chosen to be so rude to everyone but it's really immature of you to be constantly harping at everyone without at least trying to be mature about it.

    ETA: With that, I am no longer going to post on this thread so I can avoid starting a major conflict.
    You said you believe the video violates his rights. You were corrected without a sugar coat.
         
        04-11-2012, 05:42 PM
      #130
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    Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
    Though, if anyone ever was to find a way to stop all the annoying abuse videos I wouldn't say no.
    So let me see if I understand.

    You want free speech stifled because you disagree with what is being said?
         

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