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post #11 of 20 Old 08-18-2008, 04:44 PM
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This chair is the best nag I've ever had. No kick, bite or buck!

I see what you're saying about the trainer just knowing. I get all tangled up trying to listen and miss things sometimes and I end up having to beg forgiveness and flashing my best *help the dingy blonde smile* and ask for them to break down the parts I missed.

Maybe she has installed a lope button you don't know about and she flew over the info because its second nature to her but you are rolling quarters and selling shirts Make her slow down enough that you get the right cue.

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post #12 of 20 Old 08-18-2008, 08:29 PM Thread Starter
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she needs to use smaller words.

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post #13 of 20 Old 08-19-2008, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
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...OH I suck so bad!!!! I just got an e-mail from my trainer...:

ok...are you ok with not riding Riley tomorrow? Or are you ok...if you ride him....just allowed to play and jog around on him? I really need to shut his canter down this month...and I can't have you lope/canter at all for a little bit....you can ride him, but only jog around...so no lesson, just play time on him..? is that ok? I am down to the wire, on sending him home to you with a lope, so I am going to push him hard this month, and with that comes some confusion....so.....is that ok????

I SUCK SO BAD! I'm knocked down to a walk/jog loser!!!! I SUCK!!!!

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post #14 of 20 Old 08-19-2008, 12:58 PM
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HUH???


What is she saying? Is she saying that she's going to be teaching him how to lope better or canter this month?

I kinda think she's saying that she's going to knock out canter and that because she's going to be pushing him she would prefer you to not ride him hard.

WOW! I understand your confusion... ask her to start at the "how to lope" part and use smaller words. Talking in complete sentences. (I'm the worst at half sentences so I'm not baggin on your trainer at all) <---Look no proper puncuation!

If its possible she sounds like the kind of gal where its easier to watch her than to have her explain. Can you go watch his lessons?

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she is easier to watch! I can watch his lessons but she usually rides him in the morning when I am here... in the evil work place... working hard like I do... hard working, yes I am!

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post #16 of 20 Old 08-20-2008, 10:45 AM
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...OH I suck so bad!!!! I just got an e-mail from my trainer...:

ok...are you ok with not riding Riley tomorrow? Or are you ok...if you ride him....just allowed to play and jog around on him? I really need to shut his canter down this month...and I can't have you lope/canter at all for a little bit....you can ride him, but only jog around...so no lesson, just play time on him..? is that ok? I am down to the wire, on sending him home to you with a lope, so I am going to push him hard this month, and with that comes some confusion....so.....is that ok????

I SUCK SO BAD! I'm knocked down to a walk/jog loser!!!! I SUCK!!!!
You don't Suck!!!! You are just really flustered with everything. I think your trainer wants to push and ride him harder... so she doesnt want him overworked. I also think that she wants your horse to get his lope figured out so that it is easier for you. By you and her riding the cues are probably different making it more complicated for your guy. Don't be down on yourself...he is young yet and it should get easier for the both of you as he matures with his brain and body. Could you get lessons on a spur stopped finished horse? That way you can learn to ride on a horse that knows. I've ridden spur stopped horses before and it is weird. Good luck!!! (even though it is upsetting)


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post #17 of 20 Old 08-20-2008, 02:06 PM Thread Starter
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...yeah... she'll let me ride some of hers.... I'm actually getting really screwie over this spur stop becuase none of my other horses are trained that way and I've gotten to where when I want to stop I heel them forward... or when I want to slow down... I heel them forward! LOL....

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post #18 of 20 Old 08-20-2008, 03:45 PM
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This is a harder one to give advice on for everyone rides and trains differently. Every trainer has "their way" they like the horse to go and how they teach them to get there. I would start by being open and honest with your trainer, after all her job as a professional is to help you as well as your horse. I would prefer that a client be open with me and honest about their frustrations so we could work on it together. Half of the job of a "trainer" is the horse and the other half is to teach you how to get the most out of your horse, for it does no good for your trainer to get your horse to lope and then send them home to you if she hasn't taught you how to get the same out of him. Keep in mind that you do want your horse to go better for the trainer, otherwise you wouldn't be getting anything out of it, but you need to talk with her and try to come up with a good way for you to learn his buttons before he is sent home.

My only concern out of that e-mail is that it sounded a little like she was going to try and rush to get him "finished" to send him home. A two year old is like a child, they all learn and progress at different rates, and some do take longer than others. I would be a little concerned about the comment of pushing and time crunch to get him "done." I only bring that up, for I see the results time and time again with the horses who are pushed a little to fast, it is my own pet peeve if you will, just due to the number of horses that have come in with issues due to being rushed instead of letting them come along on their own terms. I am not against showing two year old futurity horses, but not every horse is ready and mature enough at two to be at the same level. I just had to throw that out, for that concerned me a little with that comment.

My only real advice is to talk with your trainer and tell her your frustrations. A couple ideas I would throw out if you were my client would to have you come ride another horse to work on getting the lope cues down solid, and ask your trainer to ride another horse, or even your horse while you take a lesson so she can show you and demonstrate exactly how to cue and what your ideal is. I would also recommend having her "warm up" your horse for you so you can see exactly how she does things and then have her ride another horse along with you while you ride your horse. I do most of my lessons while I'm riding, just for that exact reason. It is a lot easier to teach someone if you can demonstrate while you explain how to do something and they can see exactly what you are trying to explain versus trying to understand without a visual. I might also ask your trainer to work hard on you with your horse prior to taking him home so you are prepared and feel capable once your horse is home. She should understand and be willing to help you "get the lope" before you take your guy home.

Hope that helps some.
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She's had him for 5 1/2 months. And she'll get him back in March for 3 more months. I geuss my concern isn't really with HIS lope as with me. I was an english HUNT rider (not a QH rider) for 20 years before I switched to western so... I have been working really, REALLY hard to get rid of that forward seat and the "pump" with the canter. I can sit up straight on the pockets now but I can't seem to master the "locking of the pelvis". I can do it for just a few strides and I'm better one direction than the other. It's just that sometimes I can post a question on the board and other riders who arent trainers can explan it in a way that the light bulb clicks on. Like, one time Dumas explained (by riding her chair) how to leg yield... I had it on my hunt horse but for whatever reason... couldnt get it right in the western saddle until she gave me her "backyard" answer and then it was amazing... it just clicked. So... I love my trainer, she's awesome, but things are second nature to her and sometimes I need people that have had to think things out to get to where they are... to use different types of explanations to help me........ Ya know?

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post #20 of 20 Old 08-21-2008, 10:27 AM Thread Starter
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...she let me lope... teehee.... I practiced all week on blue w/ ZERO reign contact.... she let me lope... teehee...... (I still suck!)....

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