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        12-30-2012, 12:42 AM
      #11
    Weanling
    You need to be talking to your trainer about this. Let her know about your worries and see if there is another, older, broke horse that you can take lessons on in addition to riding your horse.
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        01-03-2013, 05:08 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    GREEN + GREEN = BLACK AND BLUE

    I strongly suggest you either 1) sell the horse and buy something that is better suited for you 2) don't ride your horse until she's had a good solid 60 or 90 days with a trainer, and no longer has this issue 3) take lessons with your trainer and ride the horse while be supervised.

    An inexperienced rider with an inexperienced horse often ends in disaster. What if Squaw DOES unseat you, and you fall and hit your head, and end up with hospital bills from a concussion? It could happen. Or when you fall off, she could step on you and break ribs. Or you could break an arm when you fall and are trying to catch yourself. Any number of things could happen. And we don't want those things to happen; that's why we are trying to warn you. We don't want you getting hurt.

    Either way, I do not agree with Breezy's advice. You should not try to tackle this on your own. There's a time and a place to experiment with training a horse yourself, but this isn't one of them.

    Its certainly most likely that you are cueing Squaw wrong for the lope (hanging on her face, tensing up, accidentally bumping her with your legs, etc) and also that she knows you aren't experienced enough to do it (horses are indeed smart. They know who they can get away with) and/or the fact that she is just plain young and doesn't know what she is doing yet. She might not even know that bucking is wrong under saddle.
         
        01-06-2013, 08:22 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    I have to ask this (and I'm not trying to be rude), but are you sure she was actually bucking? I ask because it's pretty difficult to stay on a bucking horse, and I'd be surprised to see an inexperienced rider hang on (but if that was the case, then good for you). Was she perhaps just lunging forward into the lope (or maybe more like a gallop)? Or could you actually feel her back all hunched up?

    I also think you should continue to practice loping on a well-broke horse, and see if you can find a trainer to put some miles on your green mare. I can't really give you good advice on loping over the Internet - you just need to get used to it, relax, and feel safe. Not an easy thing to learn with a green horse. A quiet, well-broke horse will be the best teacher you can have.
         
        01-07-2013, 12:43 AM
      #14
    Foal
    Sometimes if my horse switches leads he feels really weird almost like he is trying to buck but he is not maybe this is what your horse was doing
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        01-15-2013, 07:15 PM
      #15
    Foal
    I think it is interesting no one mentioned ground work. Maybe that has been done...but getting the horse balanced before you get on will be key. Does the horse buck when asked for the canter or lope on the ground?
         
        03-05-2013, 05:28 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    So this is kind of an older post, but I noticed no one commented so I thought I would try and help! (If yo are still needing the help...maybe you got it down by now!) I can say, that the reason she may have tried to throw you off, is because she felt how nervous you were about getting her into a lope in the first place. Since she is a newbie as well, she needs her rider to feel very confident when asking her into a lope for the first time. She felt your nerves, so probably felt like she should be nervous about something as well. As far as form - you want to sit on your "seat bones", basically like your back pockets. You want to move with the horse as best you can. Remember to keep your heels down, and really concentrate on not leaning too far forward (or too far back). It would help to have your trainer or whoever watch you ride, so that your form can be critiqued. Hopefully by this point you two are loping like crazy, but just thought I would put in my two cents just in case!
         
        03-06-2013, 01:34 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Hey so I hope you have it down by now, but if not I could help you a bit. I just went through with a trainer on the same issue with my horse that had never been ridden. He tried to toss me numerous times and succeeded once- I ended up being stepped on that time. The problem might be that your horse just doesnt know what you want it to do. That was Triggers problem. After a few failed attempts, we put him on a line and attempted to get him to lope, he flipped out because he had no clue what we were asking. It took about four weeks working him on the line until he was calmly picking up the lope- without me on him. Now he is in a snaffle bit, split reins, and I wear spurs- just as an extra cue if leg pressure isn't enough on that day(note: only use spurs if you have been trained on their use). He now lopes for me on command, but it took me almost three months to reach this point. As for seat and all- sit your butt as far in the seat as possible, lean back, but not so much its unnatural, heels down, and rock your hips with the movement of the horse, it helps them when you move along with them. I hope that helps!
         
        03-25-2013, 05:06 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Sorry guys. I haven't been on in forever! Thank you for all your suggestions and advice. I'm taking all of it into consideration. I'll try my best to answer all your questions!
         
        03-25-2013, 05:09 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Well, I don't have it down yet :(. She's even more spastic then she was then! :((
         
        03-25-2013, 05:13 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Wow, I haven't been on in forever guys. I'll try to answer some of your questions as I get to it. Thank you all!
         

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