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    01-23-2012, 05:46 PM
  #31
Yearling
If applied incorrectly, polo wraps can cause a lot of damage... and it's really easy to do them wrong! It takes a lot of practice and they must be perfect or you risk serious injury to your horse.

I'd stay stick with sports medicine boots they're effective and safer!
     
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    01-23-2012, 08:29 PM
  #32
Yearling
Personally I don't like polos that much, too much time and care for not that much more protection, ill take my SMB any day. Plus this scares the crap out of me :

     
    01-23-2012, 08:36 PM
  #33
Banned
Although I am a fan of polos for light work inside of the arena, I myself will not use them for any extensive riding.

I also agree with some of the previous comments about polos not offering much support or protection.

In my mind polos remind me of leg warmers that ballerinas wear before they practice or preform.
They use them to help prevent injuries but the leg warmers themselves do no prevent injuries.

In my opinion, polos are better then nothing and offer some help in preventing injuries but not as much as sport boots do.

I do not believe either are 100% and studies back that, but when it comes to my horse I want to use the tools and equipment that is the best for preventing injuries.
Boots can offer protection from outside elements better then polos and they offer more support because they were made to support the most important areas every time, I will continue to use boots over polos.

I also enjoy they no worry that goes along with using boots.
I do not have to worry about them being too tight or too loose, or having been put on incorrectly, or having to worry about them slipping, or them catching on something.
I am not saying there is no worry with boots but there is less worry because there is less room for error.

These are my opinions, based on my personal experiences with both polos and sport medicine boots.
     
    01-23-2012, 09:07 PM
  #34
Trained
DrumRunner, Ipromise I'm not trying to argue with you, but I do sort of take offense to you saying I was proven "Wrong".

If you look back, I did not get proven wrong. I agree with you completely, I would take boots over polos because they do scare me slightly. But they do provide support, which you also said. I stated what I read in a study link in my email, and did not argue it very far. My entire argument was that polos do in fact offer some support and/or protection (Depending on who you talk to, apparantly).

In the end, we are pretty much saying the same thing.
     
    01-23-2012, 09:37 PM
  #35
Green Broke
We're actually saying very different things..we may have some ideas in common but when I say polos give a little support I mean a horse standing in a stall, used as bandages, English riders warming up..slow things...not performance western disciplines, like the OP asked. Polos vs boots? I answered her question and corrected where you said in the beginning that polos offer enough support for a hard working horse..that is not true.

We may be skirting the edge of an debate but we're both talking about different things. I'm saying they polo create very, very little support when being used in a performance setting, like barrel racing, reining, jumping...things that cause greater stress on a horse's legs. Boots are, scientifically proven fact, better at protecting and supporting a horse's leg.

It doesn't matter how you word it or what your opinions are...polos offer little support, they don't offer even close to enough support when seriously working a horse, are more likely to be useful as standing wraps, bandages, warming up the horse's legs, and more often than not are used incorrectly and can cause more damage than good...that's my point.
     
    01-23-2012, 09:38 PM
  #36
Green Broke
Not sure why this posted..posting from my phone..it has a mind of it's own.
     
    01-23-2012, 11:12 PM
  #37
Green Broke
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I'm not so much leery of a company that does their own research..simply because that shows me that they care about their products and the things they put their name on.
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I wasn't "putting down" Professional's Choice for their studies. I absolutely love their sport boots. Probably won't ever use anything else. But my point is that with a company doing their own study on their own product, you always have to take the results with a grain of salt.

After all, they want their product to look good, right? I'd love to see the actual written study where they list abstract, methods, participants, results, statistics, etc because that is where things can get skewed to favor one direction or the other. (I wonder if they'd give that information out if someone asked for it? I might...) With me being in the medical profession, that is one of the first things I look at when I read a medical study. Who sponsored the study and do they have an interest in the results? Doesn't mean all studies are then a fluke, but you do have to keep that in the back of your mind when you read the conclusion of the study. I spent an entire semester learning about that stuff so there's a lot of questions I ask before believing the quoted results.

Just a random example here, there is a well-known optometric (eye doctor) drug on the market to treat glaucoma. The company did a study on their medication and claimed that it reduced progression by over 50%. We all should think WOW, right? Wrong. When you look at the hard data, people who were not treated at all (the control group) progressed around 18% of the time. And people that were treated only progressed about 9% of the time. So the company picked the "overall" stats to report: The 50%. Rather than reporting the true relative stats to report. Does the drug help. Yes. Does it help 50% of the time? No. But it's still worth using. So that's kind of my point when reading any study that was sponsored by the company itself.

Again, not saying they are a bad company, but I don't know if I completely believe the percentage of support they came up with versus polo wraps. I do believe they offer some support, but not sure if it is as much as they say.

I'm going to email them and see if they'll give the entire study to me. Worth a shot.

Okay, I will quit ranting about nerdy studies now.
     
    01-23-2012, 11:22 PM
  #38
Green Broke
I'm definitely interested to what they say, always like learning something new. Even if it's not in this thread let me know please.
     
    01-23-2012, 11:30 PM
  #39
Green Broke
Well, they have one link right on their webpage for a 2010 study on artificial horse legs, but only the conclusion and not the whole thing.
http://profchoice.com/files/uploads/...city-paper.pdf

But I thought this line was interesting in the first PDF:
"The current data, and that previously obtained at University of Wisconsin-Madison, have inherit limitations of in vitro data, and their extrapolation to in vivo conditions must be approached with caution. Measuring the effects of commercial equine sports boots on the kinematics and kinetics of the distal limbs and fetlocks in live horses working at speed are necessary to validate the use of sports medicine boots as techniques to prevent and rehabilitate injuries. "

Meaning that their artificial limbs they used (not real horses) didn't quite simulate the "real thing", so you can't take the results to be the absolute truth.

And they basically say the same thing (that they need to actually test the boots on real horses to confirm the results) after quoting a study that tested sport bandages on Thoroughbreds.
"This experiment and a previous one (4) support the concept that appropriate support bandages and boots may absorb some of the energy associated with high speed locomotion."

Anyway, thought that was worth throwing out there. I'll see if they are willing to share the data on their most recent study that they talk about here Our Research that seems to have been done on live horses. Funny how they don't say if a horse wearing polo wraps also tended to rest their weight on the leg that was wrapped. I wonder if they checked.

....devil's advocate........

Don't get me wrong. Still love Prof Choice's stuff.


     
    01-23-2012, 11:33 PM
  #40
Green Broke
Yeah, I've seen both of those..
     

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