I can't speak for fictional characters on a show that ended 20 years before I was born but if you hire on to a big outfit here in the west (Montana, Idaho, Oregon, Utah and Wyoming) you will trot many, many miles and it won't be a slow jog...
By jog, I meant a comfortable trot. Trooper and Mia can both do a fast trot that moves quickly and burns up energy, but I would think that would tire them as quickly as a canter. Mia will also do a fake trot, where her feet are moving but she isn't...so to speak. She usually does it when she is annoyed with me, or when I tried to sit the trot but bounced the trot instead. Trooper can do a slow trot if he's feeling lazy and I let him, but his normal trot covers ground OK. Ask him for faster, and he'll go to a canter rather than push the trot up.
And I haven't ever worked on a ranch. Trooper has. I'm pretty new to riding, so I'm making some guesses. I don't know how one could really post when the legs are as long as the pictures I showed, although Barry Godden in post 61 says you can - sort of. Not quite the 'Jack-in-the-box' posting I associate with English riding...which isn't fair to English riders, I suppose, but it is what I see a lot of when driving past arenas with young English riders.
Originally Posted by trailhorserider View Post
I think all saddles should have the shape you are describing.....and I am a woman!...
...I can't speak from a man's point of view, but I ride western and ride with a REALLY long stirrup, like the old cowboy photos posted earlier, and I always sit the trot. Now if a horse is super fast and bumpy, I may stand in the stirrups a bit (and I'm practically already doing that) or rock a little with the motion (as a saddleseat rider taught me to do) but basically, I guess what I am saying, is that is how I ride too- with a long stirrup and sitting the trot. But I guess that's pretty irrelevant because I'm a girl.
Just because I enjoy showing it off, here is my favorite saddle- I think it has the perfect seat shape.
I like your saddle. I've seen a few like it, but none that would fit Trooper's very short back. That is my idea of what a western saddle should look like!
Years ago I was taught to ride 'Western' by an old, bent bow legged Canadian cowboy who had been involved with horses since he was a kid...
...The first lesson was to adjust the stirrups so that the leg was carried almost straight. Enough bend was left in the knee to just lift the butt off the seat of the saddle even at the trot...
...The third lesson was to move with the horse, if it leant over, then lean with it. The rider sat upright and straight using the feet to compensate and resist the forces of gravity and movement by pressing down on the stirrups - which were almost being used as 'pedals'.
The rider leaned with the horse - if the horse went to the right at speed then the rider would lean over with the horse into the bend...
Interesting post. I pay for lessons for my daughter and daughter-in-law, so I'm learning by doing and listening. I did take some lessons 30 years ago in Utah, where an old ex-cowboy taught posting in a western saddle. However, he taught it with a shorter stirrup and with the heel under the hip. Almost every picture (90%) of cowboys I can find from the 1890-1930 period shows a position closer to what cutting riders use, at least from the hip down.
Here in southern AZ, the winds have picked up and the temperatures are dropping, so it will be Monday before I saddle up again and play around a bit more. Happily, my horses seem to be pretty forgiving - not a trait usually associated with Arabians.
BTW - there are hundreds of pictures from around 1910 at the web site below...it is a great place to look and think!
"Two cowboys working the herd on their cutting horses. Three Blocks Ranch, New Mexico
, 1908-1909" Erwin E. Smith Collection Guide | Collection Guide