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    02-19-2013, 12:06 PM
  #41
Yearling
I need to get hubby out there to take pictures of me when I am actually out working or training verses my trail riding pictures. Almost every single picture I have of me are when we are stopped on the trail to eat a snack or let somebody use the bathroom or something. I don't have any of me actually moving or working with a horse on something.
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    02-19-2013, 12:10 PM
  #42
Green Broke
Bsms, you keep referencing to pictures almost a hundred years old. Things change as research has been done to show a riders position effects their horse. If you watch the video I posted you will understand how HARMFUL it is to the horses BACK to ride with your leg pitched forward.
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    02-19-2013, 12:16 PM
  #43
Started
Those old cowboys didnt care about riding properly. Ever. They cared about their paycheck at the end of the day and did what they had to do to stay on that horse to get to the end of the day.
     
    02-19-2013, 12:40 PM
  #44
Foal
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Originally Posted by NBEventer    
bsms, you keep referencing to pictures almost a hundred years old. Things change as research has been done to show a riders position effects their horse. If you watch the video I posted you will understand how HARMFUL it is to the horses BACK to ride with your leg pitched forward.
Besides, some cowboys rode better than others. Just because a picture is 100 years old and the rider is a cowboy doesn't mean that cowboy was regarded as a riding master. And I bet not all cavalry officers were good riders, either.

What do the texts from the cavalry riding schools of that era say? What did Xenophon say? These were recognized master of those eras.
     
    02-19-2013, 12:45 PM
  #45
Trained
Best advice I was given, I think, was that whatever sort of riding you are doing your basic seat should be such that if you made the horse disappear you would land standing on the ground.

Of course it changes if you are jumping, or working a cow maybe, different times you would take a different position.

I agree with the thought that the pics of yesteryear add nothing to the debate, apart from to show how things have moved on.

Fox hunting anyone?







Then we discovered the forward seat for jumping




Doesn't always work though!

     
    02-19-2013, 12:50 PM
  #46
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
Best advice I was given, I think, was that whatever sort of riding you are doing your basic seat should be such that if you made the horse disappear you would land standing on the ground.

Of course it changes if you are jumping, or working a cow maybe, different times you would take a different position.

I agree with the thought that the pics of yesteryear add nothing to the debate, apart from to show how things have moved on.

Fox hunting anyone?







Then we discovered the forward seat for jumping




Doesn't always work though!

Technically in the last picture their shoulder/hip/heel is still aligned just not in a sittin up position.
     
    02-19-2013, 12:54 PM
  #47
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by toosexy4myspotz    
Technically in the last picture their shoulder/hip/heel is still aligned just not in a sittin up position.
Correct. There are times when your position will change. When I am doing a drop fence, I lean back. Why? Because I don't want all my weight on my horses front end when we land that drop, especially if the landing of that drop still has me going down hill. Its the same as when you are going up hill. You go into a half seat going up hill to help shift the weight, but my leg does not move. Sometimes doing a drop your leg will slide forward, it happens, no one is perfect.

But the rule of thumb is when you are riding flat your shoulder, hip, heel need to align.
     
    02-19-2013, 12:55 PM
  #48
Super Moderator
BSMS you are almost comparing apples to oranges when you bring up photos of cowboys.

You see, a barrel racer would not have the same seat as a WP rider because what the 2 riders are asking of their horses is different. A reiner won't look exactly like a horsemanship rider but more like a cutting horse rider...

If you look back at MHF's photo, her seat position is different because she is riding a working ranch horse. The needs and the movements are different.

It would be the same if you compared a hunter jumper rider with a hunter equitation rider. Those guys that are jumping 6 and 7 feet don't look nearly as pretty as the ones in the medals classes because the goal is different. (although Beezie Madden always seems to look perfect)....

So... the perfect seat in one discipline, isn't the perfect seat in another but the concept is still the same. Seat position really is key....
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    02-19-2013, 01:03 PM
  #49
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
BSMS you are almost comparing apples to oranges when you bring up photos of cowboys.

You see, a barrel racer would not have the same seat as a WP rider because what the 2 riders are asking of their horses is different. A reiner won't look exactly like a horsemanship rider but more like a cutting horse rider...

If you look back at MHF's photo, her seat position is different because she is riding a working ranch horse. The needs and the movements are different.

It would be the same if you compared a hunter jumper rider with a hunter equitation rider. Those guys that are jumping 6 and 7 feet don't look nearly as pretty as the ones in the medals classes because the goal is different. (although Beezie Madden always seems to look perfect)....

So... the perfect seat in one discipline, isn't the perfect seat in another but the concept is still the same. Seat position really is key....
I hate her for this very reason lol. I wish I had a beautiful seat like Beezie. She is seriously my idol in jumper land.

Karen O'Conner always seems to look pretty darn awesome too. She is my eventing idol.
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    02-19-2013, 01:09 PM
  #50
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by NBEventer    
I hate her for this very reason lol. I wish I had a beautiful seat like Beezie. She is seriously my idol in jumper land.

Karen O'Conner always seems to look pretty darn awesome too. She is my eventing idol.
I really hope she heals enough to show professionally again... :(
     

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