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  • Should horses wear sliders while out in a pasture
  • Horse in pasture with their sliders on?

 
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    09-15-2009, 07:32 PM
  #21
Started
Nope, I don't turn them out with sliders on. You mean in pasture right?

I agree with your farrier because the sliders are meant for a specific use and if you are trail riding and need your horse to go up or down a hill and you have sliders on, then they aren't going to get traction- hence the "sliders" :)

If you aren't doing heavy reining/showing then take off the sliders ... just a thought :)
     
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    09-15-2009, 11:36 PM
  #22
Foal
Yeah, I mean in the pasture.

I rarely get to show, so the sliders would only be on for probably one shoeing while he learns just the basics, or for shows (normally in August).

I just feel bad when I ask him to stop from a canter or even an extended jog often during a ride, and he has to jar those joints to stop, and make it uncomfortable for me because he can't really reach underneath himself well.

Do you think a small turnout area like a roundpen would be ok for turnout as opposed to a pasture, with the sliders on?

Thanks
     
    09-16-2009, 11:36 AM
  #23
Started
If I were you I would watch him when you turn him out and see if he can "handle" himself ok (both my horses will hangout by me if I turn them out and they can see me so if you need to per say hide but in a place that you can still see him try that) ... if you aren't really showing I personally wouldn't put the sliders on.

You can talk to your farrier about putting some normal shoes on and as long as you are riding in a good area it should be ok to stop. I don't have sliders on my guy right now- no need and I am not slamming him into the ground, just stopping him from a trot and a slow lope to make sure that we keep our balanced stop through the down time this winter.

Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions :)
     
    09-16-2009, 10:27 PM
  #24
Foal
Thanks so much for the info! I'll definetely look at my options.

I'm thinking I might do one shoeing next time with the sliders (for November to mid-december) just so that he can learn how they work. Then, over the winter months (Jan, Feb, Mar.) he can have just normal shoes. I'm thinking about doing this because I have an event in April that I may be doing, and I don't want to have to put the sliders on during the snow and ice months. But I want him to know how they work and such so that I dont' have to teach him literally the month of the event.

How's that sound?
     
    09-17-2009, 11:45 AM
  #25
Started
Sounds good but I don't know how much he will remember if you put them on now and then take them off for a few months ... I would say keep them off for winter and put them on in March- also talk to your farrier to see what find of traction and footing he will have with them on (I am in CA so I don't know how severe your weather is ext.). We can leave them on all year long but we don't get bad weather... rain is the worst we get... but I would only use then for the show season if it was me ... Do you work with a trainer?

Good luck!
     
    09-17-2009, 11:36 PM
  #26
Foal
Unfortunately, I don't work with a trainer. I wish I could, but everything I make goes toward just paying my board or buying feed. I'm teaching myself reining, which I realize is difficult to impossible to do. But I truly love the sport, always have, and always will, so I absorb everything I can about it from books to videos. Since I have no guidance, this is why I am taking it really slowly so that I don't mess up the sliders.

I'm just really concerned that he'll start colicing and/or develop vices from being inside all the time. Right now, he is on only 7-8 hours of stall time, the rest is pasture with several other horses (about 16 hours outside). There is just no way he would be able to stay inside and keep a healthy mind and body, unfortunately. If you think of any solution, please let me know! Thanks!
     
    09-18-2009, 02:58 AM
  #27
Foal
I love rolls backs- they are my favorite exercise!
     
    09-19-2009, 05:22 PM
  #28
Foal
Um...ok lol
     
    09-20-2009, 12:39 AM
  #29
Rod
Foal
Top Hand and Kchfuller,

I have a different opinion about sliders and when to put/leave them on, so I thought I'd weigh in on the subject. I've been busy training horses and watching grandkids and haven't had any time to 'play' on the forum. It's Sat. Evening and I finally have a little time for myself.

I want the horses that I show to be very comfortable wearing sliders. As soon as they progress to the point in their training where they act like they want to stop, I put them in sliders. I keep them in sliders until I quit showing them. That may be several years. I want the sliders to be a part of their foot. I want them to know how the sliders will perform in all situations. I turn them out on pasture with them on. I ride in the hills with them on. I work cattle with them on. I ride in the winter (in Idaho) with them on. About the only time I don't ride with them on is on hard ice.

I think this gives me an advantage when in the show pen because the horse is never surprised about how the sliders work. My horses don't slip and 'kick out of lead' in the circles because they are still getting used to their sliders. They are not unsure about themselves in any show situation because they have lived in sliders in all sorts of situations for the past year or more.

I show Reined Cow Horses and the cow horse rein work does have some differences from a NRHA reining run. I want my horses to stop deep and push some dirt. A horse that stops hard- with its feet well underneath them, will score as well or better than a horse that skates across the top of the ground in a classic sliding stop.

I do not put as wide of a slider on my horses as some do. I stick with 1" sliders. On a very few horses I'll use a 1 1/4". I can get a good stop with 1" sliders on the vast majority of horses.

I have not had a problem with sliders coming off the foot when I use the horses for other things. If your horseshoer can't set a slider that stays on- maybe you need a different shoer.

I am certainly not saying that this is the only way (or even the correct way). But it has worked well for me. YMMV.

Rod
     
    09-20-2009, 10:17 AM
  #30
Foal
Wow Rod,

Thanks so much for your opinion. I really wanted to get different opinions which is why I really appreciate your's and kchfuller's responses! That's really interesting that you can turn your's out with sliders, but some prefer not to. If I have to keep him inside with sliders on, I won't do it to him. It's just not worth it to me. I'm glad to know some people can turn their horses out with sliders on. When I talked to my farrier, he only briefly mentioned the subject when I asked him about it, so of course I'll go into more detail with him when it gets closer to next month's shoeing. Again, thanks so much for your opinion. Every bit of info helps!
     

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