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post #1 of 32 Old 12-31-2009, 02:38 PM Thread Starter
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Retraining a gelding from the track

My friend gave me a horse to train, her family dont like him in the least bit. I rode him yesterday, and he has an issue with taking the bit. He came from the track, but only did 2 races and never made it because he was not quite fast enough. He is now 11 years old, and I love him...

But does anyone kno how to teach him to chill out and listen??

I am willing to train him for anything western that he might like, I was thinking cutting, but now I am kinda leaning twords barrels. any ideas??

If it dont either put meat on your bone, teach you a lesson or keep you brused just a bit, then really it aint a dream worth workin twords.
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post #2 of 32 Old 01-06-2010, 10:23 PM
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Find a trainer. Don't try to do it yourself.

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post #3 of 32 Old 01-06-2010, 11:03 PM
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I agree, "chill out and listen" could mean way too many things, call a professional. The horse will benefit from the hands of a skilled horseperson!

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Originally Posted by kevinshorses View Post
Find a trainer. Don't try to do it yourself.
I agree.

I have trained a few horses myself, your typical; 2 year old, old horse that was never started, your average 'problem' horse, a few foals...ect

One thing I did in common with all these horses: I had a professional working with me.
I enjoy doing all the work myself from cleaning stalls to what some consider all the boring bending and softening work (usually everyone wants to get right out and jump, barrel race, and so on).... Sometimes once a week, other times once a month just to have another eye on what needs to be improved and has already improved.

My newest horse I'd like to really get involved in the ApHC with and show... I'm going to need a lot of professional help with him. He is just a cheap little thing that was given to me so its going to take a ton of time, money, and hard work to get there... even then he may not be very good at anything but I'm willing to devote myself to him becuase in the end he will just be a better broke horse becuase of it... BUT I still am going to work with a trainer that is proven in my area and has shown in ApHC, APHA, and AQHA events, as well as many local shows, and her students are winning in the events (and others) that I wish to compete in.

Nothing is more relaxing than having a professional to help you along, watch you work, and guide you down the right paths... and nothing is more frustrating than making very little progress and trying to do everything on your own with no expereince!

You have to work with and ride a ton of horses before you can do it alone.

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post #5 of 32 Old 01-07-2010, 03:46 PM
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If you really can't get hold of a trainer, do atleast 10 - 15 minutes of join up a day (even if he locks on straight away, keep him going on the outside for this amount of time, do both directions too) this will get him listening to your body language (I'm sorry if you already know this, and you probably do! But to work out a kink you need to start right from the very beginning)
After every join up, try and get follow up too, that shows the horse repects you.
Thoroughbreds are very sensitive (I assume he is a Tb cos you said he was from the tracks). They're bred to run, which is why I think he is so uptight. I did some work with an OTTB gelding, who was, incidently 11 too, but certainly didn't seem it. His owner bought him as a dressage / family horse. Bad idea I'm afraid. He was such a sweet horse, but all he wanted to do was gallop. And as far as dressage go, he had such a boucny trot and canter, never ever seemed to flow.
The horse you are working with might be different, but like I said, they only seem to be interested in running.
Good luck with him by the way, and I'm sorry if my post has been absolutely NO help lol
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post #6 of 32 Old 01-17-2010, 10:08 PM
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Annie came from the track too. I was doing the classic "woah sit reins" technique to work on her stopping and when she got away I used the one rein stop to pull her around and make he listen. She soon had the idea after a while, and then I sent he to a trainer for 30 days of touchup,

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #7 of 32 Old 01-18-2010, 11:43 AM
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You say he is 11. Only ran 2 races...

A horse that only ran 2 races and is 11 has most likely been off the track for years. So what has he done since then? Just sat in a pasture? Was he owned by someone else after racing? Need more info about his training after racing.

Most race horses aren't trained to do much but change leads, and run straight.

I agree get help from a professional trainer, as from the sound of things he is still green (even at 11), and hasn't been ridden in years. So your basically breaking a horse at the age of 11. Not an easy task for a novice horse person.

IMO some professional help in this situation is your best bet

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post #8 of 32 Old 01-18-2010, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick101 View Post
Most race horses aren't trained to do much but change leads, and run straight.
im assuming hes a TB, but she didnt say. if hes a STB they arent even trained to do that.
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post #9 of 32 Old 01-18-2010, 06:43 PM
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I have to agree with the many posters above.

Maverick took the words right out of my mouth! I was wondering the same thing...."what has this horse been doing for all those years"?

The horse could have lots of "baggage" to get worked out.

I would start calling around and trying to find someone who has experience with a situation like this. You might want to ask lots of questions about the person training history and ask the same questions to more than one of them.

Also, Just a thought. Are you tensing up while on this horses back? This can contribute to many things.
I don't your your experience with horse's or training them nor do I know your age, but I do feel everyone is on the right track with suggesting you find some professional help.
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post #10 of 32 Old 01-19-2010, 04:58 PM
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Yes, I didn't mean don't get a trainer by the way hehe, I just meant, in some areas getting hold of a pro is very difficult, so I was just taking into account that that might not be possible. But if you can, you should deffinitely get the help of someone who has worked with lots of different horses, and it sounds like you'll need one if he's still so green at 11.

Just remember as Tbs have arab in them, they are very sensitive to pressure, both physical and visual. So just be aware of what all of your body is doing (which I admit can be a difficult when you're trying to concentrate on what your horse is doing)

Also, has he ever been in western tack? He might not be used to the feel on his back, if he's only really been used in races, then he's used to a very thin, light saddle that doesn't go as far down his back as a westen one would.
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