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  • Does a cathedral bit make a horse bow its neck
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    09-18-2012, 08:45 AM
  #11
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Haha Mango, I'm glad I'm not the only one, it's kind of intimidating at first! My friend looked at me like I was a nut case when I told her I was intimidated by the cathedral bit! I guess it's all just new to me, I've ridden in shanks before, and correction bits, but under the guidance of a trainer, so now to be using one with my own horse kind of puts it in my own hands......
     
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    09-29-2012, 09:48 PM
  #12
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I am not a reiner but just because the horse was purchased with this bit doesn't mean you can't try something else. Shop around for the same type bit that has a mouthpiece you are more comfortable with, never hurts to try.

That being said, the horse should be working off your seat and leg mostly. If you think you can familiarize yourself with these bits, just start slow doing basic flat work and allow yourself time to get used to the feel and your new horse.
     
    09-29-2012, 09:55 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77;1686501[B
]Smrobs pretty much nailed what I was going to say :)[/B]

Shouldn't be an issue if you know how to use the bits or learning from your trainer. I wouldn't hesitate to express your concerns to your trainer and see what he thinks.

By the way, congrats on your new horse!

What else is new? Doesn't she always hit that nail on the head?
     
    09-29-2012, 10:13 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by GrittyCowgirl    
I am not a reiner but just because the horse was purchased with this bit doesn't mean you can't try something else. Shop around for the same type bit that has a mouthpiece you are more comfortable with, never hurts to try.

That being said, the horse should be working off your seat and leg mostly. If you think you can familiarize yourself with these bits, just start slow doing basic flat work and allow yourself time to get used to the feel and your new horse.
That's exactly what I've been doing, really I've just about worn the hair on his wither away from my hand just resting on it! Glad he's sensitive because he really responds to my leg and seat....and if I have to I just neck rein to get a bit of a quicker response from him. I have the cathedral bit for one of those 'let's have a change day' but I've been using a low port correction bit and am finding it is just fine....mainly because I actually don't touch it!!!!
I think once I get really confident with him I will just throw a snaffle on him for the fun of it! Plus my daughter is itching to ride him and obviously the only thing in is his mouth is going to be a snaffle when she's on him:)
We are still getting to know each other, and I will slowly get more confident in changing things around a little later.......no longer scared of the bits
     
    09-29-2012, 10:43 PM
  #15
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I think you should post some pictures of your new guy myself lol
     
    09-29-2012, 11:36 PM
  #16
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When I get a good shot of him I will post

Tomorrow I'm going to see if I can get a couple of big slow rolling circles....he's been kind of 'busy' but I thinks its my busy seat and legs that are causing that!

My ass is on lockdown tomorrow to get my slow lope!
     
    09-29-2012, 11:55 PM
  #17
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As much as I agree that you shouldn't fix what isn't broken, and if your horse is good and you're comfortable in those bits that's fine. But if you're not comfortable using those bits it's perfectly acceptable to change it!
There is NO reason your horse couldn't be ridden in any bit you want, it my take time for him to learn the new communication, it would take your time to work with him to get him to understand the change in communication. But if you want him in a different bit - he's your horse you CAN change it.

I personally, don't think any horse should 'require' a specific bit to be good. Some horses are better in specific bits, or more comfortable in others, but a horse should be good regardless of what you put in his mouth especially if your neck reining. I realize you're doing very finely tuned work, but as far as I know, with reining, the bit is the last tool of communication, seat, leg, body, and focal cues are all more important than bit cues.
So I repeat - there is NO reason you can't change that horse's bit if you want to.
     
    09-30-2012, 10:46 PM
  #18
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Originally Posted by PunksTank    
As much as I agree that you shouldn't fix what isn't broken, and if your horse is good and you're comfortable in those bits that's fine. But if you're not comfortable using those bits it's perfectly acceptable to change it!
There is NO reason your horse couldn't be ridden in any bit you want, it my take time for him to learn the new communication, it would take your time to work with him to get him to understand the change in communication. But if you want him in a different bit - he's your horse you CAN change it.

I personally, don't think any horse should 'require' a specific bit to be good. Some horses are better in specific bits, or more comfortable in others, but a horse should be good regardless of what you put in his mouth especially if your neck reining. I realize you're doing very finely tuned work, but as far as I know, with reining, the bit is the last tool of communication, seat, leg, body, and focal cues are all more important than bit cues.
So I repeat - there is NO reason you can't change that horse's bit if you want to.
Yes, I will give him a whirl in some other bits AS SOON AS I AM COMFORTABLE with changing things up, we have both been through a lot of change lately!

He stops with my seat, slows down his pace with a shush and some weight in the stirrups....although lately he's been excited during the lope, we had a nice quiet lope today (at last!) after plenty of circling in to the arena EVERYTIME he sped up! But he figured it out....this isn't out of control, just too energetic for me! He does stop and slow down to a trot or halt....it's just the lope, I need the transition....which we had a small success at today! I'm pleased! I will have a good snooze tonight!
     
    10-01-2012, 09:30 AM
  #19
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If his 'stop is so responsive he might be a lot more settled in a milder bit like a snaffle and you might worry less about knocking him in the mouth and relax more yourself.
A horse that's well trained to leg & body cues shouldn't need excessive braking gear and will usually go forwards at lot better too
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    10-01-2012, 11:31 AM
  #20
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I agree about the 'milder' bit option, but I don't think a snaffle would be a good transition, it's a whole different form of communication compared to a cathedral bit. You could try a correction bit, but those are still pretty horrifying.
This is my FAVORITE reining bit, and I think the nicest bit in the world.


It's called a sweetwater bumper bit, it's just about as soft as a bit comes. Of course though you should use what you're comfortable with, but if he's as responsive as you say, there's no reason he wouldn't thrive with this. :)
     

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