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        08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
      #11
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    Originally Posted by corinowalk    
    If its not pain, its the fact that he is gate sour. He is just 'upping his game'. Breaking a horse of being gate sour is reallly hard. Really reallly hard. Do you run all year? Do you have some time to give him off?

    I am not saying this is what you do...but in my experience most gate sour horses get that way by being used as a vehicle and not a partner.
    yes I do run all year and I just started running him after giving him 2 full years off.
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        09-04-2010, 01:17 PM
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    I agree with corinowalk. Simples snaffles do the trick
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        09-04-2010, 01:24 PM
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    Sorry for the doubles post... Barrel racer7335-
    Training a horse out of being "gate sour" isn't that hard. Pastick was really hate sour when I got him. It took me about a week.
    But all horses aredifferent.
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        09-04-2010, 10:12 PM
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    I see things differently than the majority. While I do agree pain and tack fit should always be ruled out, it isn't always my first thought. (although it probably should be).

    First, how long have you had this horse? You said you just started running him after two years off, did you give him the 2 years off or did a previous owner? I ask this to ensure that it's not a pre-existing issue.

    Next, do you normally haul alone? You mentioned he was with a group of horses he's not usually hauled with. It could be as simple as he was attached to the others, or that the excitement of hauling in with a group of horses is an issue that will need to be dealt with.

    You said you've had small gate issues before, what kind? Was the rear new? It sounds to me like he was having a fit, the question is... why?

    Then you asked what I would do... For one thing, I'd be much more timid going into the gate on him knowing what could happen. I'd most probably use a tie-down as well, just to be on the safe side and my riding style would be defensive.

    I think you really need to evaluate this guy. He may need a change of pace, on occassion a horse will become so sour at their original job that they need a change such as, entering the hunt ring, or becoming a western pleasure pony...

    I hope you figure out what's going on. (Safely!)
         
        09-06-2010, 11:46 AM
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    Originally Posted by farmpony84    
    I see things differently than the majority. While I do agree pain and tack fit should always be ruled out, it isn't always my first thought. (although it probably should be).

    First, how long have you had this horse? You said you just started running him after two years off, did you give him the 2 years off or did a previous owner? I ask this to ensure that it's not a pre-existing issue.

    Next, do you normally haul alone? You mentioned he was with a group of horses he's not usually hauled with. It could be as simple as he was attached to the others, or that the excitement of hauling in with a group of horses is an issue that will need to be dealt with.

    You said you've had small gate issues before, what kind? Was the rear new? It sounds to me like he was having a fit, the question is... why?

    Then you asked what I would do... For one thing, I'd be much more timid going into the gate on him knowing what could happen. I'd most probably use a tie-down as well, just to be on the safe side and my riding style would be defensive.

    I think you really need to evaluate this guy. He may need a change of pace, on occassion a horse will become so sour at their original job that they need a change such as, entering the hunt ring, or becoming a western pleasure pony...

    I hope you figure out what's going on. (Safely!)
    Well i've had him for 5 years so I gave him the 2 off. His problem before was that he would just hop him(almost all of my horses are like that) and he would be fine once he got in. For your hauling question I usually haul him with my bf ropers and my backup barrel horses but I hauled him with my cousins horses that night.
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        09-06-2010, 12:05 PM
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    I think he's just started getting to wound up for shows. He knows it means he runs lots of barrels, and he is gate sour because heck, he knows as soon as he gets in there he has to run and turn around three barrels, which can get pretty boring sometimes.
    I would take him to a show (I'm guessing he's not like this at home?) and don't even enter a barrel class. Enter a low key, gymkanna and do pole bending, a western pleasure class, heck, maybe even some jumping if they have it. But try to enter a lot of slower events. And whatever you do, DO NOT spur him into a gallop as soon as you get through the gate.

    You will probably have to go to a lot of shows and stuff, but just do a bunch of stuff besides barrel racing. Eventually you can ad ONE barrel class into it, then maybe two if he doesn't go crazy, then three, but always keep one class at the show that is something compeletly different from barrels.

    I've never strictly barrel raced before, but I will PROMISE you that if you don't just do barrels everytime you ride, and try different things, your barrel horse will be even better at barrels, and you will get better times.
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        09-06-2010, 12:15 PM
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    I think he's just started getting to wound up for shows. He knows it means he runs lots of barrels, and he is gate sour because heck, he knows as soon as he gets in there he has to run and turn around three barrels, which can get pretty boring sometimes.
    I would take him to a show (I'm guessing he's not like this at home?) and don't even enter a barrel class. Enter a low key, gymkanna and do pole bending, a western pleasure class, heck, maybe even some jumping if they have it. But try to enter a lot of slower events. And whatever you do, DO NOT spur him into a gallop as soon as you get through the gate.

    You will probably have to go to a lot of shows and stuff, but just do a bunch of stuff besides barrel racing. Eventually you can ad ONE barrel class into it, then maybe two if he doesn't go crazy, then three, but always keep one class at the show that is something compeletly different from barrels.

    I've never strictly barrel raced before, but I will PROMISE you that if you don't just do barrels everytime you ride, and try different things, your barrel horse will be even better at barrels, and you will get better times.
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