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    08-13-2009, 06:51 PM
  #1
Yearling
Speed Pleasure?

I heard about a pleasure-type show that was designed especially for horses that specialize in speed shows (like barrels and such), and was considering suggesting incorporating a similar class into my riding club's shows... however there's one problem...
Other than mention of it that one time, I've never actually heard of or seen one! So I have no idea exactly what types of things they'd be looking for in a class like that... Rail work, a pattern, gaits they'd go through..?

Has anyone ever heard of a speed pleasure show? Can you describe it?
     
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    08-13-2009, 06:52 PM
  #2
Trained
Never heard of it but it sounds like something id want to try
     
    08-13-2009, 06:58 PM
  #3
Weanling
A speed pleasure show? Is that like a speed fun show w/o show clothes, etc?
     
    08-13-2009, 11:45 PM
  #4
Showing
I have never seen one done but that sounds like my kind of pleasure class. I love horses who are in perfect control but actually have some energy in their step and their head at or slightly above level (where it would be in a natural setting). If you get it done, I would love some videos.

If I was judging something like that, I would look for:

Control; the horse should be willing to travel at a consistent speed on a loose rein or with only minimal checking.

Comfort; the horse should appear comfortable to ride. Nobody wants a horse that is going to leave bruises on your thighs every time you trot.

Responsiveness; cues should be minimal, not much more than a nudge with either leg or rein.

Levelness (is that even a word??); the horse should have a level topline but slightly above or below is acceptable. Undesirable headsets are peanut roller and head-in-lap. However they carry it, it must appear natural.


You could always have a rail class that is like a true WP class and if there is enough interest, also have a class with patterns like they have in trail or horsemanship classes.
     
    08-14-2009, 12:00 AM
  #5
Weanling
I think you are thinking of the ranch horse classes. They are just like pleasure shows, but for horses that excel at roping, ranching, barrel racing ect..... Ex. You are judged at halter for a horse that has excellent confirmation that aren't necessarily "pretty" in today's halter standards, but are still high calipher horses.

Ranch Horse Versatility
     
    08-16-2009, 05:46 PM
  #6
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Barrelracer Up    
Looks to be a lot of fun!
     
    08-20-2009, 09:40 PM
  #7
Foal
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
I have never seen one done but that sounds like my kind of pleasure class. I love horses who are in perfect control but actually have some energy in their step and their head at or slightly above level (where it would be in a natural setting). If you get it done, I would love some videos.

If I was judging something like that, I would look for:

Control; the horse should be willing to travel at a consistent speed on a loose rein or with only minimal checking.

Comfort; the horse should appear comfortable to ride. Nobody wants a horse that is going to leave bruises on your thighs every time you trot.

Responsiveness; cues should be minimal, not much more than a nudge with either leg or rein.

Levelness (is that even a word??); the horse should have a level topline but slightly above or below is acceptable. Undesirable headsets are peanut roller and head-in-lap. However they carry it, it must appear natural.


You could always have a rail class that is like a true WP class and if there is enough interest, also have a class with patterns like they have in trail or horsemanship classes.

RIGHT OIN!!!! This is how Western Pleasure used to be when I showed - a PLEASURE! And, natural - then came peanut rolling and I quit! I recently had the great misfortune of watching a class on TV and the ring judge actually called for "Jog with a FORWARD motion!!!!" I laughed, but it was really depressing - these days, WP is like watching paint dry.
     
    08-23-2009, 11:13 AM
  #8
Yearling
I talked to a woman I know and found out that the class I probably heard about was one held at a big open show that is held not far from here...
Apparently, the class is exactly like Western Pleasure, except all horses entered in the Speed Pleasure class must also be in a Speed class, like barrels or something. The class ends up being more fast-paced than a regular pleasure class, and the horses usually don't specialize in pleasure, so they're allowed to have more natural gaits.
     
    08-23-2009, 12:53 PM
  #9
Yearling
I used to think that regular western pleasure was boring, too, until I started taking an interest in it and teaching my horse to move like those horses. I spent at least 3 hours a day EVERY day out at the barn on just trotting to get her to keep her head down and move slowly at the jog. It is amazing how much work is put into that stuff, so before you say it's uynnatural and stuff liek that, try it once or twice. My horse would now rather keeo her head down than have it up and she won't even go into a faster jog unless I force her to; not because she's not supposed to, but because she doesn't want to.
     
    08-23-2009, 12:58 PM
  #10
Trained
I tried it and still think it's unnatural BECAUSE it takes 3 hours a day every day to get them to pitter around. Horses are being bred for WP now so it is a more natural way of movement for them, but for my speed/cow bred horse, it took a lot of work to get him to move like anything similar to a western pleasure horse. I'd love to try one of these speed pleasure classes!
     

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