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    01-11-2011, 10:23 PM
  #11
Banned
Impulsion/collection comes from the HINDQUARTERS don't forget! ;) So many think that a tucked neck indicates a collected horse.

Videos would help alot :)

Could be laziness, training issues, back soreness, or hocks/stifles
     
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    01-13-2011, 04:01 PM
  #12
Yearling
Video is uploading.. should be up in a few minutes :)
I watched it again though, and it doesn't seem like she is. Maybe I was going crazy before, or maybe not? Haha
     
    01-13-2011, 04:16 PM
  #13
Yearling
She normally is incredibly lazy, but the day we took these videos, we had been doing lots of speed type stuff, and it got her engine going. Haha
Here's the video:

Youtube made it all blurry and scratchy :(
     
    01-13-2011, 04:29 PM
  #14
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Horseluver,

Thankyou for the cute video. Lena is really a nice looking horse and goes pretty nicely if you ask me. The thing I immediately notice is not her but YOU. You are leaning so far forward and have your legs crooked up and I am not sure, but it almost looks like your heels are gripping into her sides. Mostly, your leanig forward (and I saw this throughout the video) puts you horse off balance. She struggles to keep you balanced because your position is weak. Evidence by when she came to quick stop, as you had asked, you fell forward.
I did see her can't her hind end in a little on the canter, but as for her being able to engage her hind end, it's realy hard for her because she is heavy on her forehand , in part due to her trying to keep you balanced when you are leaning too far forward.

She is really a cute and responsive mare. I really like her and you can get a whole lot more out of her when you get the most out of yourself, and you have a lot of potential as a rider.
     
    01-13-2011, 04:34 PM
  #15
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
Horseluver,

Thankyou for the cute video. Lena is really a nice looking horse and goes pretty nicely if you ask me. The thing I immediately notice is not her but YOU. You are leaning so far forward and have your legs crooked up and I am not sure, but it almost looks like your heels are gripping into her sides. Mostly, your leanig forward (and I saw this throughout the video) puts you horse off balance. She struggles to keep you balanced because your position is weak. Evidence by when she came to quick stop, as you had asked, you fell forward.
I did see her can't her hind end in a little on the canter, but as for her being able to engage her hind end, it's realy hard for her because she is heavy on her forehand , in part due to her trying to keep you balanced when you are leaning too far forward.

She is really a cute and responsive mare. I really like her and you can get a whole lot more out of her when you get the most out of yourself, and you have a lot of potential as a rider.
This. I have this issue too. I tend to get ahead of myself, therefore making my horse get ahead of himself and stay on his forehand. I have to tell myself to sit to make him sit also.

Your horse is beautiful, by the way!
     
    01-13-2011, 04:40 PM
  #16
Yearling
Thank you! The reason I was leaning so far forward in these videos, was because I was trying to get her to go faster by urging her forward. I get kinda unbalanced when going into a faster canter/gallop and need to work on that. I completely agree with the stop and everything. I do tend to fall forward if I am not prepared properly for it.
Thank you, she is an amazing horse, I have only been doing western riding for a year now, and she is soo cooperative and willing <33
     
    01-13-2011, 05:28 PM
  #17
Yearling
I will have to get some more videos this spring :) I only have like 4 videos in total of me riding from one day haha. There is never anyone around to take them..
     
    01-13-2011, 05:37 PM
  #18
Green Broke
Set up a chair, and put the video camera on it while you ride, and record that way. That's how I do it!! =)
     
    01-13-2011, 05:41 PM
  #19
Yearling
That's a good idea! Thank you! :)
     
    01-18-2011, 10:05 PM
  #20
Weanling
When asking for more speed you don't want to lean forward. You really want to be pushing from your seat and hips. The horse has to power through the back end, up through her barrel and out the front. Because of the way you are leaning she can't get off her front end enough to engage her hind end, plus you seem to be nagging her with your feet and she is getting upset with you (evidenced by the tail swishing). Try and be more aware of her movement also, if she is bent to the left then she can't turn properly to the right and she will be stiff and mad about it.

If you sit deep, sit quietly active, moving with her instead of against her, then you will find she softens and relaxes more into what you are asking.

You might want to check out Horse Training with Chris Irwin | Horse Videos &ndash; Horse.com Video Library there are some really good concepts on moving with your horse.
     

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