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post #11 of 14 Old 10-24-2012, 05:26 PM
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I only buy second hand so that I can go up in quality. I've seen and ridden some good factory/production saddles. Am riding a used McCall Teton All-around right now that is working well. But when I can find a custom... I do a quick check on what others know and usually grab it. I'm saving for a HH Heiser that I found in dirty, but good, shape for $700 two weeks ago.

It's awful, but I scavenge pawn shops in non-horsey areas of my region toward the end of the month. I actual schedule business trips around that.
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Many of the saddles mentioned, I had never heard of. This means little as I have very little exposure to Western Saddles at all. Circle Y was the name brand that I heard most about, years ago. I had a friend that showed Arabians in English horse western classes years ago and listening to her, if it wasn't a Circle Y, it wasn't a western saddle. ha ha

The horn of the saddle would be an issue for me as well. I am simply not used to it and the few western saddles I have sat on, to me felt like I was a bit trapped. Coming from a flat saddle which has nothing to hold you on to a western saddle is a big stretch.

I have always wondered about the weight of the western saddle as well. It does make perfect sense though that the weight is also distributed to a larger area of the horses back.
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post #13 of 14 Old 10-25-2012, 05:36 PM
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My experience with western saddles (the only thing I have ever ridden besides 2 rides in a jumper ) is not necessarily the brand name but the shape. Any brand can be good or bad it's subjective to the buyer/user/rider. Currently I ride a Circle Y barrel or reiner? I can't remember and I haven't used it in 2 months so off the top of my head I'm going to say reining since it's so durned heavy.

What you need to know is 'trail saddles' don't actually exist. If someone pushes a 'trail' saddle at you in a store laugh and walk away. Seriously. All it is is a new name for the lighter weight barrel saddles. LITERALLY. It'll have the same shape (maybe a shallower seat) and a round or circle skirt. Square skirts will always be your heavier models.

Barrel saddles - aside from the horn being 'taller' for supportive grabs (some not all) and the seat being 'deep' and 'tall' these are your lighter weight saddles. You'll be more likely to find them comfy for trails if you're unaccustomed to other types. They can be heavy and they're generally designed for short-term uses (making a run and then done) so be sure it's a full bar saddle otherwise you're in for a surprise on the trails!

Reiner/Cutting/Roping - from my experience these are really similar though not always. Usually your heavier 'fuller' saddles. The differences will be round or square seat, depth, and height of the seat. Thickness and height of the horn. Generally square skirted these may or may not be round-skirted as well. Circle skirts are unheard of (from my experience) as the skirt and weight of the saddle lends it self to the original use of western saddles which is to counter-act the weight of a cow (ropers) and hold in place correctly when the cow is tied to the saddle and the horse left to keep the slack out of the rope. Usually double-rigged these saddles will not fit correctly without the back cinch. They're designed to be held by both front and back cinches so if your horse has never had a back cinch stay away from these or get him/her properly desensitized to the back cinch!

Reiners (in general) have a lower front and a medium to low back. It both looks nice and keeps the saddle 'out of the way' of the riders hands. The low front enables the rider to keep their hands at the correct position(s) without struggle. Same can be said for saddles designed for WP (although most WP riders i've seen use reining saddles)

If you're looking to buy then write a list of what the saddle will be used for. Then write a list of what you LIKE in saddles. Go to a saddler ( an actual custom saddle maker ) and explain what you're looking for. He/She will be able to explain with examples and help you out and they're never shy about answering questions even if you don't buy with them!

Always make sure that full-padded seat is what you want. Some saddles come fully padded and that padding more often than not is the ONLY thing between the rider and the tree which means when that padding wears out it's time for the saddle to go. ( all trail saddles that stores will 'push' will be fully-padded and depending on how heavily used will need to be replaced within 5 years )

Endurance saddles - though generally not equipped with a horn - are a good route for pleasure trail riding. They're padded but not like 'trail saddles' and generally are light weight.

When it comes to saddles the more flash and tooling the higher the price. Those 'plain jane' untooled saddles or 'trimmed' saddles will always be the cheapest (even with brand names. inside that brand they're the cheapest!)

stay away from any out of country brands for western saddles as they're cheaply put together and usually use belly-skin leather which is the weakest leather on a cow.

definitely hit up a saddler! they can answer your questions better (and it's what I did and where I got my information).



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again all of what I said is JUST from my experience and what I can remember from the saddler and my shopping around
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post #14 of 14 Old 10-25-2012, 06:11 PM
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Obviously what you plan to do determines what kind of saddle to buy. There are so many variations between styles, trees and riggings that it is mind boggling. Then that varies even more between brands/custom makers and tree builders.
You could write a book or two on the different kinds of western saddles.

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