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        12-04-2009, 05:47 PM
      #31
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by QHDragon    
    Don't tie downs usually make the horse get really muscled on the underside of their neck? Maybe this is just an urban legend, but it makes sense when you think about it.
    Yes, a tie down usually does do that, but it's only because the horse is only using that 'side' of his neck; he won't muscle out over the top, or even each side of his neck, only the bottom.
         
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        12-04-2009, 11:15 PM
      #32
    Green Broke
    As a note, you NEVER want a horse muscling the underside of the neck. The muscles should be through the topline, and the underside of the neck should be toned but soft and flexible. The more muscle a horse develops under the neck, the more difficult it will be for the horse to ever work properly through the topline.

    I use a tiedown on my Arab mare at times. On group trail rides or gaming events, yes. It's hardly strapping her nose down though - she just likes to fling that pretty little Arab head into the sky and run like crazy. She runs like that in the pasture, so any tips for teaching her to run with her head down would be great I can work her in an arena, or do any gaits with her and have her decently rounded and listening to me but when she goes full out, those tippy ears tickle my nose!

    I agree though, I dislike seeing these gadgets as "second nature". I have no intention of ever using one on my Paint filly. The only reason I ever use one on my Arab mare is to keep her calm and level headed. Half the time it's not even into effect - only when she brings her head to a severe enough height to warrant it. I prefer avoiding gadgets at all costs.
         
        12-05-2009, 09:12 AM
      #33
    Banned
    Yes they can get back up to their feet after falling(if it's not to tight)
         
        12-05-2009, 11:03 AM
      #34
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by BuckOff41570    
    I honestly believe they just don't know any better. When I was little and would go to a barrel race...EVERY rider wore a tiedown.
    I agree. I've seen plenty of people who were never told otherwise and were never informed about proper training methods, or never worked with people who knew what they were doing.
         
        12-06-2009, 07:28 PM
      #35
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by buddy09    
    I was just wondering if your useing a tie down in barrels and your horse falls will it be able to get back to it's feet?
    I"m just curious as to why you posted this question...

    So I am guessing from what you posted on another thread(or was it this one??) about one of your horses having a tie down on and flipping over and such, are you worried another of your horses is going to fall or freak out and flip over?

    Do you use tie downs on your horses when you barrel race? Why?

    If you are worried your horse is going to freak and flip or fall down you probably are doing something wrong and need to re asses your training or the horses suitability for your riding skill level...
         
        12-06-2009, 08:01 PM
      #36
    Banned
    Nope she was the only one and I only used it because the person I bought her from told me that she needed it. I didn't realize that she would do that because she never threw her head or anything just used it because they said she was used to it.
         
        12-06-2009, 08:55 PM
      #37
    Trained
    Since you don't ever need a tie down, I imagine you've since stopped riding the horse in a tie down, yes?
         
        12-06-2009, 09:01 PM
      #38
    Weanling
    I use a tie down on my horses that toss, and throw their head alot when they want to be stubborn.. and when I run barrels.

    But, I don't use a martingale.. Never even owned one of those things.
    I don't draw my tie down tight. Just enough to put a little pressure on them when they toss their head up to high. I don't abuse them..
    I don't use them for training either..

    Am I doing anything wrong there?

    Anyways..
    They can get back up with a tie down.
    If they so happen that they can't get up?
    You have in WAY to tight..

    Umm, ok I just read you last post, sorry..
    If she doesn't seem to need one.. Don't use it..
         
        12-06-2009, 09:57 PM
      #39
    Green Broke
    ^^ Actually, yes you are doing wrong by using one to prevent your horse from tossing its head. Head tossing is usually a sign of anxiety or physical discomfort. They are not just being stubborn, they need to be trained better, stubbornness has nothing to do with head tossing.
         
        12-06-2009, 10:09 PM
      #40
    Trained
    Quote:
    ^^ Actually, yes you are doing wrong by using one to prevent your horse from tossing its head. Head tossing is usually a sign of anxiety or physical discomfort. They are not just being stubborn, they need to be trained better, stubbornness has nothing to do with head tossing.
    So you think that no horse will ever toss it's head for any reason execpt anxiety or discomfort? Sorry, but that just isn't true.
         

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