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        12-06-2009, 11:10 PM
      #41
    Weanling
    He was vet checked, and everything.
    It wasn't hurting him..

    His head tossing is a was habit.

    I used it for the same reason MacabreMikolaj did on their Arab.
    If I didn't have it on him He would toss, and bolt.
         
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        12-06-2009, 11:13 PM
      #42
    Green Broke
    They're out there! Simon MUST use a standing martingale even though it's on so loose he could do anything he wants.
         
        12-06-2009, 11:16 PM
      #43
    Weanling
    I completely understand that Sunny..
    If my horse Jaybird didn't have a tie down (wasn't tied down tight at all)
    He would get out of control, and he was 100% sound, and healthy.
         
        12-06-2009, 11:22 PM
      #44
    Green Broke
    ^^ Exactly what I am saying guys, you don't have the control necessary to ride without it. The horse isn't trained enough to not need one and the rider feels more comfortable with it on. Exactly what I was saying.

    Wild-spot-Why else then??? To see the pretty clouds or because they are punk rocker horses??
    I never said it won't for ANY reason, I said USUALLY won't. And that is a completely correct statement. They usually don't toss their heads without reason, not because they are stubborn, but because there is an issue that causes them to act in that way.
         
        12-06-2009, 11:27 PM
      #45
    Weanling
    You know they make tie downs, and martingales for a reason.
    They don't make them to look pretty hanging in a tack room..

    He tossed him head just because I was making him do something he just plain didn't want to do, and fought, and bolted.

    Anyway, I'm not fighting over this..
         
        12-06-2009, 11:29 PM
      #46
    Trained
    Quote:
    Why else then??? To see the pretty clouds or because they are punk rocker horses??
    I never said it won't for ANY reason, I said USUALLY won't. And that is a completely correct statement. They usually don't toss their heads without reason, not because they are stubborn, but because there is an issue that causes them to act in that way.
    Because they are built like that? (Arabs) Because they are trying a new way to react to pressure? Because they have learnt that head tossing leads to less contact/less work/less something?

    No need for sarcasm - I restrained myself in my post so I appreciate the same in return. The way you worded your post implied that anybody who uses a head check/martingale has an axious or uncomfortable horse and is disregarding training in favour of a quick fix. While this is certainly true of some people - It is nowhere near the truth about everybody who uses them.

    My arab is a perfect example - He is sound in mind and body, his saddle fits, he has had his teeth done, he is happy in his bit (a snaffle) he is very well educated - Yet when others ride him I put him in a martingale, very loosely. I can tell you that he is 100% NOT in any pain or discomfort and he is not anxious - He is just an arab, and sometimes flips his head up. The martingale has a physcological effect - When it's on, he doesn't do it, and it never comes into use.

    Do you think that having a loose martingale on a horse to protect riders and which doesn't actually come into play at all is doing wrong by my horse?
         
        12-06-2009, 11:29 PM
      #47
    Green Broke
    Painted hodrod- Ok, I wont either. Btw, Hotrod(youe avatar right?) has a beautiful face :)

    Wild-spot, Not a bit of that was sarcastic, maybe light hearted joking, but not mean by any means. I am sorry it came off that way everyone. And I want to make it clear that I meant no negativity towards anyone, I was stating a black and white fact as harsh as it may have seemed, so be it.
         
        12-06-2009, 11:30 PM
      #48
    Trained
    *Forgot to add - I have seen many horses who are similar - Arabs being the main culprit. It is often said that Arabs actually do like to look at the sky - They are built for high head carriage and do it in the paddock - It isn't just a trait that shows up under saddle.
         
        12-06-2009, 11:35 PM
      #49
    Weanling
    Thank you :)
    Hotrod knows he's a stud muffin, haha

    Well said wild_spot..
         
        12-06-2009, 11:46 PM
      #50
    Trained
    Quote:
    ^^ Exactly what I am saying guys, you don't have the control necessary to ride without it. The horse isn't trained enough to not need one and the rider feels more comfortable with it on. Exactly what I was saying.
    Missed this bit - I can ride my arab without a head check/martingale with no worries - Because I know him and know if he is going to flip that pretty little head and prevent it before it happens. Other riders don't know him as well, and don't have that firesight - So the martingale is for their protection (he flips his head up fully - If the rider is forward it can hit them in the face).
         

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