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post #21 of 29 Old 01-03-2010, 02:28 PM
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#1 doesn't look sound to me. Moves shorter in the right hind than than left. That might be because of the "trainer's gait" jog, but of the two, I prefer #2.

In general, though, I agree with kevinshorses. I prefer horses to move under saddle a little closer to their natural gait.

Disclaimer: I am not a western horseperson, and am not all that familiar with what's desirable in WP.
I agree. #1 looked off on the right hind. I don't care for any horse moving like them. I would have to pack a lunch just to fetch the cows from the back 40.
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post #22 of 29 Old 01-05-2010, 01:26 AM
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Absolutely agree with your weel thought out response.

Those horses in your avatar ARE really nice. Tell us about them, if you don't mind a hijack. Maybe the OP should hear what you say.
Well thanks guys

Yes, that line up was at our 2008 spring show.

AS alot of people have already said the "classic" WP horses travel quite ugly in the sense that it is not natural, and it looks awkward, and often does make the horse look lame. However, quite a few WP riders (in our area) especially the younger generation, are not training this way due to the many reasons that people have already listed.

Now, some people like this...however.... a lot don't. Seeing that the whole point of WP is for the horse to be...Comfortable, and a joy to ride, these horses are not so, as RIO said it would take a whole day to check on your cows. Now WP is supposed to reflect the easy and comfortable ride that a cowboy would need in order to check fences and cattle for extended periods.....and again RIO makes a valid point...how the heck would you get that done on a horse w such slow and unnatural gaits???

This was the whole reasoning behind a lot of the western Canadian 4-H groups rallying around our local chapters of horse "gods" and requesting a change in how these horses are judged. Now, this didn't happen over night. But now Id say in a class of 10 horses you"ll have maybe 4 that will travel this way...and they often don't place (depends on the judge of course), but I see more and more of these horses being over looked. But again this is only in western Canada from what I have seen, but the more people advert from training this way, the sooner it wont be considered desirable at all shows/states/provinces etc

The sorrel horse second from the left is my guy Maverick He placed 3rd in that class. The paint on his Right ended up winning...a real nice mover, can collect himself quite nicely for a bigger horse.. he is actually owned by a friend of mine . The second place horse was "cut" out of the picture he is just off to the right of the paint. My Dad took the picture, and was really just trying to get Mav and myself in the frame.

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Although I don't particularly like either, I would say #1 has more POTENTIAL. ?He definitely needs to be driven up a lot more especially in the back end so that he really gets under himself and engages. People have said that his head is too low but I like it the way it is. It is where he naturally would hold it and he has a good flat front end with a nice slow back end. He just needs a lot of work really driving up under himself. If it were me, I wouldn't really pick either. I'm sure there is something better out there for that price range especially now that the market is down.
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post #24 of 29 Old 01-20-2010, 11:28 PM
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If I had to pick between the two, while I think #1's head was too low and his lope looked like a trot on the back end, I liked his overall look.

#2 besides looking huge, looks like he has to struggle in his gaits. When the person riding him started trotting him and posting, he definately didn't have the look of a western pleasure horse. He looked more suited to hunter/jumper.

It's been over 8 years since I've trained and shown western pleasure..I forgot how slow they looked.

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I agree. #1 looked off on the right hind. I don't care for any horse moving like them. I would have to pack a lunch just to fetch the cows from the back 40.
ROFLMTO! When I use to show WP, I use to joke that I could walk faster than my horse could lope. Looking at it on video seems a lot different than being there and participating.

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Haha, this reminds me why I hated judging WP in the 4-h contests. It was always a toss up on how to place those four-beat lopers.

If I had to choose, I'd pick #2. But like the others have been saying I bet you could find something better if you shopped around a bit.
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post #27 of 29 Old 01-21-2010, 03:49 PM
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im not a big fan of WP but the first horse does seem to do it with ease. he looks better and although his lope needs to have a more lopish look, his trot is nice and his head lays low easily. not only is he cheaper, but he looks bred for it! The other horse looks like it would rather be faster and freeer.
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post #28 of 29 Old 01-21-2010, 10:42 PM
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I wouldn't spend their asking prices for either horse IMO...for that kind of money you should be able to get a horse with a little more experience. IF I were to go for either of them it would probably go for number two, because he could wind up being a good all around horse...

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I agree with what most people said. I think #2 would make a great all around horse if you planned on doing HUS classes as well. #1 did seem better in his hocks and more slow legged. Both horses do need to be pushed out more at the lope tho. Get them more correct then slow them down. #2 especially but both look like they were trained just to go slow and not correctly.

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