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post #11 of 36 Old 11-21-2010, 10:21 PM Thread Starter
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Also you can get this bit with any mouth piece including smooth, and any gag bit like this needs bit gaurds as to not pinch the horses mouth.
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By bit guards what do you mean? Same thing I'd think of in the English world?

So can you explain to me the way a gag bit works? My education in this is seriously lacking!
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post #12 of 36 Old 11-21-2010, 10:25 PM
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Have you thought of a Baucher bit? It's like a snaffle, but it has poll pressure. No shanks, no curb chain, just poll pressure. And it's a dressage bit. I think that would work well.
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By bit guards what do you mean? Same thing I'd think of in the English world?

So can you explain to me the way a gag bit works? My education in this is seriously lacking!
If you ever look at a gag bit, look at the mouth piece. It slides, so unlike say a tom thum the mouth piece isn't locked in right away, it slides up then locks in. Becomes engaged. So most horses will move as soon as the mouth piece begins to slide up, so theres never usually full mouth pressure. Unless the horse is really lacking in training and has the bit just thrown on for more control, though you'd know if this was the case because the horse would most likely have their head in the air fighting the bit. Being on the bit can be hard for a horse that's used to minimal bit pressure and is used to neck reining.

And bit gaurds, like the english ones but usually you need ones that open with either velcro or snap together, they normally have a smaller circle than the old anes anyway. Better in my opinion. You can find them on statelinetack.com
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post #14 of 36 Old 11-27-2010, 02:09 PM
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Here's what the bit looked like. I can't understand why someone would choose this as their every day riding bit. It looks like it would be used on a horse with weak brakes. Like I said, he was very light and responsive, but I can't help but wonder what he's going to do when he feels the massive differeince between this and a basic snaffle. I'm wondering if there's a bit I should use inbetween this one and the snaffle just to do this the safest, most reasonable way. Any thoughts? I am so clueless when it comes to bits...I've always been a snaffle kinda girl. Appreciate the advice!



I see the majority of local barrel horses in that bit.

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My dad used to always say "Don't go borrowing trouble with your horses. You'll get plenty without asking for more." Ride your horse in a snaffle and see how she does.

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post #16 of 36 Old 01-08-2011, 05:28 PM
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you might not find mch of a difference all my horses can go from bit to bit with no change really thay are so light mouthed, and the bit you are talking about is a harsh bit but you can control how harsh oyu want it to be but I probably change bits too:)
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post #17 of 36 Old 01-20-2011, 11:13 PM
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Wrap the noseband in vet wrap and the bit isnt harsh. The twisted peices on the bit look bad, but when to consider how much that dit DOESNT rely on mouth pressure its not bad at all. I love those combinations. They do great jobs of keeping horses mouth's lite and supple
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I HATE combo bits...too much going on IMO.

Start him out in a snaffle and see how he does
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If I encounter a horse that works well in one, well, then Ill use it, but for the most part I try to avoid combos.
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post #20 of 36 Old 01-22-2011, 11:43 AM
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honestly a tom thumb is alot less harsh than that bit, the twisted wire is ridged and will rub the tongue and mouth rough, along with the rawhide noseband (which is also rough...) with a tom thumb and a curb chain all you have to have is really light hands and it is alot less harsh than this one. But that's just my opinion and everyone had different opinions. I myself prefer curbs. But I also know how to use them. I say use your snaffle. And throw that thing in the garbage.


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