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post #11 of 55 Old 10-05-2009, 08:31 PM
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I've always been told they aren't meant for it and give wrong signals.
How can they give ANY signals when neckreining works on the pressure of the rein on the neck, not on the bit? The bit shouldn't be giving any signals when neckreining, unless you are also asking for a change of pace.

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post #12 of 55 Old 10-05-2009, 08:34 PM
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Ask an English person. I'm not English.

Unless of course you ARE English. Then you can ask someone else why they think this.

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start with an easy bit like a snaffle and work up from there till you find something that gives you control but also gives your horse comfort...there are millions of different bits out there so why not try them all! LOL not litterally but you get the picture...

As for side pulls I say unless it is one with a bit I wont touch them...they are great for training and pasture riding but that's all ill trust one with. You have no real way of pulling your horses head up if they go to buck and you don't have as good of control on stops....ive had a few take off with me before and even though they were very responsive horses usually there was really no way for me to stop them....atleast not quickly anyway...

If your going to go bitless Use a hackamore....and before even trying bitless make sure you can easily stop and pull your horses head up while bitless....


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If you can use a snaffle then by all means use a snaffle!

I'd give anything to ride Sunny in a snaffle :/

That bit you have shown is made to be ridden with 4 reins. So it is like a tad harsher version of pelham, only western style. At least IMO.

Snaffles aren't made to be neckreined, so it'd be best to stick with direct reining *if you can* but it isn't a sin to neckrein one, lol.

That bit is NOT made to be rode with 4 reins. They do NOT Ride double reins in western. But yes that bit is a bit harsh becuase of the long shanks.

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^ An Argentine bit is a training bit. The rider can ride with 4 reins if they wish to fine-tune their horse's training. It *can* be ridden with 4 reins but is not required.

I've been told this, have read it, etc. It can be ridden with 4 reins.

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Ask an English person. I'm not English.

Unless of course you ARE English. Then you can ask someone else why they think this.
I'm not in America so I don't see myself as 'english' or 'western'. I do however ride both my horses in snaffle bits and neckrein both of them. I ride mounted games one handed, sporting one handed, and work cattle while holding a stockwhip in the other hand. They neck rein fine in snaffles.

In all my years of doing so, I have never had a horse get confused signals once they have gotten the hang of neckreining.

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Also wanted to add, I don't know anyone in Australia who thinks this. It seems to be a big misconception in the US that you can only neckrein in a curb bit.

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Also wanted to add, I don't know anyone in Australia who thinks this. It seems to be a big misconception in the US that you can only neckrein in a curb bit.

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^ lol.

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No, one of the main problems here is that people also pull on the bit while they neck rein because their horse's are not properly trained or the people don't know how to ride. When you do that, then yes, the signals can get confusing because you are cueing for a left turn with the right rein but also pulling on the right side of the bit and cueing for a right turn. Very confusing, especially to a young horse. So long as the reins are left loose, neck reining in a snaffle is a snap.

Plus, at breed shows, any horse that is ridden in a snaffle is supposed to be ridden with 2 hands and only horses 5 years old and younger can be ridden in a snaffle. All others must be ridden with one hand in a curb bit. At least that's how I think it is. It has been a long time since I was involved in the show world.

Also, I just wanted to add that if she was trained in a bosal, more likely than not, she would probably do better in a bosal hackamore or even a soft hackamore (rope halter). But for a beginning bit, the snaffle will be your best bet.

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