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    01-12-2012, 07:07 PM
Thom thumbs are a very harsh bit, they say they're a 'shanked snaffle' because of the broken mouth piece, but believe me they aren't, they pinch.

I'd suggest a loose ring snaffle. Very soft, and works on the lips of the horse's mouth. Then you can try moving up to something with a little more leverage. :)

If your horse is past the "snaffle" stage, try using a grazing shank. It has a broken mouth piece, long shanks, and has a mild pressure on the horse's mouth. Very nice bit, and with soft hands, horse responds well. :)
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    01-12-2012, 07:43 PM
Originally Posted by Kansas Spice Girl    
I transitioned my mare from a Egg but to an Argentine when she was seven. She is now 14, and still in the Argentine, with no problems. She has always been weird with her mouth even in the D ring, and the Argentine is the only bit she doesn't flip over in... why would this be? This is out of curiousity because I am by far not an expert on bits. Does it come down to me as the rider in my case? I don't really use my rein very much she is pretty much all leg (i wouldn't even really need a bridle to ride her) I trained her this way because of her weirdness with her mouth. I wanted to add her weirdness is not cause by the Argentine... she was weird in her egg but too. Her mouth is just sensitive I think...we have had our share of flipping over even with just pressure from halter. At first we thought it may be linked to something wrong with her teeth but it turned out just to be one of her quirks!
Of course I want her comfort before anything else, I just assumed the Argentine was mild due to her reaction... well lack of reaction in her case, to it! Would you recommend I change it?
Not one bit, is going to be the "miracle bit" for all horses, depending on the horse and the hands that are using it really depends on what is going to work. You just said your self that you use your legs more than the bit, do you think you or your horse would like that bit just the same if you had to really use it and get in his face a little? Its hard to say...I am not really bad mouthing an Argentine, it definitley is a step up from the TT, in my opinion. But I am not a fan of it because it has the same concept of a broken mouthpiece with shanks. I will be the first one to admit, that I had a bit that was a broken mouthpiece and curved shanks but it had a dog bone in the middle. With a dog done or a double joint it is easier to work one side independently. If I use a bit like that and use direct rein I am not plow reining, I will lift the rein very close to the neck. But even that wasn't very efficient and I traded it off. Like I said before, the low square hinge port with short shanks has been my favorite for a transition. It seems to suit my horse and my riding style.

To answer your question, I agree with Bubba, don't fix what is broke.
    01-13-2012, 02:56 PM
I personally just like a basic O ring snaffle with the myler style midpiece. My horse is a TB who is used to bracing against the bit (I think it was the single joint midpiece action that really bothered him) and after I switched bits, he's a lot more relaxed and willing.
    01-15-2012, 11:08 PM
Originally Posted by bubba13    
Where'd you get those pictures, beau?

Gosh, it's been a long while but I think it was from another horse forum a couple years back. Can't quite remember. I like them a lot because I am a very visual learner. Makes more sense to me if I can put things into a picture.
    01-15-2012, 11:11 PM
I ask, simply because I made them, and posted them here last year.

No worries, just thought it was funny. Carry on!
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    01-16-2012, 12:50 AM
Bubba, if you Google "Tom Thumb bit" and search images, those pics come up...your famous..almost! LOL
    01-18-2012, 02:02 AM
Originally Posted by bubba13    
I ask, simply because I made them, and posted them here last year.

No worries, just thought it was funny. Carry on!
I apologize! Totally my bad. I seriously thought I had them laying around on my computer for years already. Geesh

Well they helped me so much that I saved them.

I will definitely source your work from now on.
    01-18-2012, 03:05 AM
^ Totally not necessary, since I stole the bit stock images, anyway. I just don't want nobody else taking credit for them.
    01-18-2012, 11:32 AM
Originally Posted by smrobs    
I've never used one with a square port like that but I do have one of these and I really like it. Super short shanks so it's very mild with a bit of tongue relief.

AT Low Port Loose Cheek Low Port Western Bit 5in - Horse.com

I also have several bits similar to this one, just with slightly different shaped mouths. I've found some horses do prefer a solid mouth with no joints at all.
Weaver Stacy Westfall Double Rein Curb Bit - Horse.com
I just ordered this bit for my mare! I liked that it has a similar mouthpiece to the myler D ring I've been working her in. Hopefully it will make for an easy transition for her.

I've always heard mixed reviews for the tomb thumb bit. It's nice to hear more in depth about what's wrong with them. Very interesting discussion guys.

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