Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: northern arkansas
I am glad you are so passionate and happy in your passion Farmpony. IMO your horse Riley(?) looks amazing and has a lovely frame and to me he truly does collect(in just the few pics I have seen of him)in the classical sense. I am glad all the bashing does not bother you, that is what happens when you are secure in what you do, major kudos.
FlyinSoLow, I have been doing a ton of research lately since starting this thread to be more specifif and realize that WP horses have their own definition of collection, that it is nothing like conventional collection, and I am fine with that because now I know after looking for a while that that is what thy mean when they say collected, not that the horses have "true" collection as in
"collection - when the rider balances the driving (forward) and restraining aids on a horse. This causes the horse's frame to become compacted, the horse light on it's feet and supple in hand. The baseline is shortened, the shoulder is raised, the croup is lowered and the head is held on the vertical. The horse works off it's hind end, where it's hind end does much of the work."
,and that is what my problem was, I did not understand that they did not mean this kind of collection, but their own "brand" and that is how they are suppose to move. i think more the defensive from your side came maybe from thinking I belong to a particular discipline and was comparing to that discipline, and that is not true. I do not have a "discipline" and was just comparing to the definitions of the specific terms, but WP has a dictionary all its own.
I still have a slight issue with the dragging toes and heavy-ish forehand, but that is WP and that is how they are supposed to be and how all the horses look, nothing to bash. Consider me educated and not a basher. I really do appreciate the level of discipline that it required to move as they do. I just wish you would have been more willing to clarify what I observed, but it is ok, I realize how aggravating it can be to have to constantly deal with the true bashers...
I apologize that this thread turned out as it did, I did not mean it to be so, I really did want a bit of education to happen to help with the bashing...
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