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    05-06-2009, 10:54 AM
To ask for the correct lead I use inside rein and outside leg, you may have to use your inside leg to keep the horse from dropping a shoulder.
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    05-06-2009, 11:18 AM
I use the outside leg to turn him over with his shoulder. I use the inside leg to turn his rump around when at a stand still.
    05-06-2009, 04:44 PM
Well, I am glad to see this has turned out to be a very good and viable question! Keep the feedback coming.. This is interesting!
    05-06-2009, 06:22 PM
See, I would be inclined to think that on a sharp turn, using the inside leg to move the hindquarters around would give you a higher chance of that butt swinging out and ruining the turn... As well as turning off the forhand instead of the back hand... If you get what i'm saying.

In a sharper turn, you (by that I mean me, lol) want the horses weight back on their haunches so they can dig in and get that front around quickly. So I would use my weight to rock the horse back on his haunches and then my outside leg to swing that front shoulder around...

I'm inclined to think that using the inside leg on the hind in a tight turn could go so far as to disengage the hindquarter, blowing out the turn and resulting in a much slower exit from the turn.
    05-06-2009, 06:26 PM
Oops, forgot half of what I wanted to say, lol.

In regards to the 'simpler is better' idea, and the fact that many greenies or potential buyers may notbe aware or how to ride off leg and seat...

My horses do both. Firstly, I don't use my seat and legs in isolation, unless i'm bridleless. I always supplement with a neck rein or suporting rein. Also, my horses do both. On the trail, they go along on a loose rein, neck reinnig, where I point them and my legs don't touch them. I only bring my legs into play if the string out like a noodle or are evading. I really only bring the leg into play when i'm asking for more, I.e. A lifted belly to engage the hind, the more collected turns and stops I need for shows, etc. So when my horses are ridden by begginers they handle it fine.
    05-06-2009, 06:37 PM
I was told it was to be like a pair of scissors for sharp turns outside front inside back so the front is moving left and the rear is moving right. Otherwise I use outside leg for simple directions, so the horse is moving away from pressure. When I first started riding I did just the opposite. I was told it was wrong so I switched. Vida was very confused for awhile
Now I have a headache
If I want just her butt to move over I rein to the butt, leg back in the opposite direction I want the butt to go. If I want her front to move over I rein to the shoulder, leg to the front again in the opposite direction.
Is that right? I sure hope no one who knows how to ride ever has to ride my horse
    05-06-2009, 06:49 PM
On a tight turn I use inside rein, inside leg towards the shoulder and outside leg towards the hind. I guess it would be just like the sicissor action : ) I don't want the hind to swing out either but on a tight turn you want to make sure that the shoulder does not drop.
    05-06-2009, 06:54 PM
Sounds right to me, Vida :] I'm the same, for moving butt or shoulder to me it is always moving off the pressure. So outside leg to the back to move a hind, and outside leg to the fore to move a shoulder.

I've never heard that scissors analgoy. That may work for barrels/other events, but would be a big problem for me in mounted games. In mounted games, often you need to turn around a barrel at the end while picking something up off it, so the horse needs to keep is body straight and his hind following shoulder following nose. If the front was turning right around the barrel and the hind was moving left, it would carry me too far frm the barrel to pick up the object. That kind of turn is BIG BAD in mounted games lol, as picking objects up is the main skill, and done very fast. So a lot of inside rein/outside neck rein/outside leg is used in mounted games to keep the ribs and hind in line with the front, allowing the rider to be close enough to do the job.
    05-06-2009, 06:56 PM
To me it all breaks down to moving away from pressure (at least the way I go about thing). When doing a circle I use my outside leg to hold the hips in and to push the horse over. This is the most simple start and usually how I like to teach younger horses to start moving off leg. Farther down the road I'll introduce my inside leg to push the ribs out to create more bend. My own personal mare goes almost entirely off leg and seat (when she wants to) but if I were to be training for someone else, it would depend on the level of the person riding. Me personally though, I like a horse that is light off leg.
    05-06-2009, 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by wild_spot    
Sounds right to me, Vida :] I'm the same, for moving butt or shoulder to me it is always moving off the pressure. So outside leg to the back to move a hind, and outside leg to the fore to move a shoulder.

I've never heard that scissors analgoy. That may work for barrels/other events, but would be a big problem for me in mounted games.
Funny you should say that. The person who taught it to me teaches and competes in cowboy mounted shooting

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