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Western Riding, turning into/away from leg pressure.. Your opinion

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  • How to us leg pressure on turning a western pleasure horse
  • How to turn a horse with leg pressure

View Poll Results: When turning, do you:
Cue with the inside leg for the turn 7 28.00%
Cue with the outside leg for the turn 18 72.00%
Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

 
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    05-06-2009, 08:08 PM
  #21
Trained
Very different events though! :]

A brumby I did a season of MG on turned like that, and there were numerous races I had to sit our of because of it, 3 mug being the main one. (and it's one of my favourites, ****! Lol)

Actually now I think about it, if the butt is moving the oppostie way to the shoulders, wouldn't that be blowing out? Maybe i'm seeing it in my head a bit more extreme than you mean, lol.
     
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    05-07-2009, 12:45 AM
  #22
Foal
It depends on what I'm doing. Since I ride both game and pleasure horses it's very important for me to have a horse that moves off my legs and seat and doesn't require much rein aids.

If I want just a simple turn, I cue with the outside leg at or slightly behind the girth- depends on the horse.
If I'm pivoting, I cue with the outside leg at the girth and shift my weight back.
If I want a circle, I cue for bend with the inside leg at the girth, and control the hip with my outside leg behind or at the girth depending on what's going on with the horses body.
For side passes, legs yields, lead changes, ect I cue with the outside leg (at the girth for side passing and leg yielding...behind for leads).
For barrels, I hold the arc of the turn (and hold up the shoulder) with my inside leg at the girth, and my outside leg behind the girth to keep the hindquarter from swinging out.

The horse needs to move AWAY from my leg, not into it. When you apply an inside leg at the girth on a circle lets say, you are asking the rib cage to move away from your leg and create bend while using the outside leg to keep the hind tipped in forming the arc of the circle. In both instances the horse is moving certain body parts AWAY from the leg. This distinction is why it's so important for a horse to move its hips, shoulder, and rib cage independently when you apply a leg in certain places- behind the cinch, at the cinch, and slightly behind respectively.
     
    05-14-2009, 07:23 PM
  #23
Weanling
I use both. Most of the horses I ride are youngsters so I have to do a bit more finessing while fixing. I will ask for the turn with the outside leg, but have the inside leg "on" to keep the horse from falling in and to bend around the inside leg. Makes the turn smoother and not so abrupt.
     
    05-22-2009, 01:22 PM
  #24
Weanling
When you neck rein, you lay the rein over the right side of the neck to cue the horse to go left. This I follow with the cue of the right leg to turn left. And vice versa.
     
    05-27-2009, 09:45 PM
  #25
Weanling
I said inside leg, but actually I use my seat and reins first when I cue for a turn. I find myself dropping my hip to the side I want to turn and asking for the horse to turn his head with rein pressure, then I apply my leg.

My outside leg is used to either maneuver the shoulder or hip, depending on what kind of turn I'm doing.

When you sit and think about it, it seems so technical. When I'm actually riding, I just do it :)
     

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