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post #21 of 68 Old 12-03-2008, 01:19 PM
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post #22 of 68 Old 12-06-2008, 02:42 PM
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I think their attitude stinks.

I do agree with the in the sense that they MAY be thinking - that you CAN do reining with a WB, but if you wanted to compete big time, I don't think you could ever win BIG in a open class, because their conformation just doesn't allow for it like the QH's and Arabs.

But I do agree you can teach a WB reining. And he can be good at it, and you can have fun with it. So long as you're not looking at trying to win at the Worlds.

I've got Arabians and Reining and Cutting is my thing as well, and I suspect that they'd probably laugh at me as well, though Arabs are proving themselves as worthy working western horses.

I'd take any horse for training for anything, but I would be straight up about your prospects for going far with it. But as long as you're having fun, that's what matters.

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post #23 of 68 Old 12-07-2008, 07:05 PM
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My father is a Quarter Horse western trainer, and I can say from his point of view that some trainers were not made to train breeds that you typically don't find in the Western world. Quarter Horses and Warmbloods have completely different temperments and may act differently. Not to mention, a Warmblood may respond a whole lot different than your typical stock horse.

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hi all, I am not sure that Jazzy was trying to put down Western trainers in general - just the ones that she spoke with that all but told her she was stupid for even thinking trying to take Jarred into the reining world. I am quite sure that he is capable of the sport and i think that you should perservere Jazzy.

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I agree with you Tennessee, and Lane.

She was just referring to the ones she spoke with, I believe.

And yes, Tennesse, I totally agree, for the simple fact that I know you can't train the typical Arabian like you can a Quarter Horse. They think and act totally different, and I've seen lots of Arabs just lose it because of "cowboy" training, whereas a Quarter Horse is more mentally capable of dealing with it.

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post #26 of 68 Old 12-10-2008, 12:10 PM
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thats to bad that your trainer is mean:(
i dont ride but i love horses :)
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post #27 of 68 Old 12-10-2008, 12:44 PM
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Breed just has nothing to do with training. You can't ride papers. It should make no difference what the breed of horse, or if he is registered, rather the relationship the rider has with the animal.
I ride a 14.3 HH Canadian. He moves a bit different in the front end than most horses out there and is quite a stout animal. No one would think English disipline when looking at him. I placed quite well in english flat classes, equitation classes, hack classes, and at the end of the year I had him jumping 3'! Not what most would expect from a short heavy horse. He does quite well in the western pleasure stuff, the reining classes, trail, barrels, etc. I have started him under harness for driving classes. We have a very good horse/handler relationship and the training follows that. I am now working on some trick stuff with him. I want to have him bow on command while I'm mounted. It's coming along fairly well.
Any breed of horse can do anything. Some are just the 'norm' for that disipline and some are a surprise. I think it makes for a more interesting class to watch. If they are all the same breed and shape, things get a bit boring when you are a spectator for sure.
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post #28 of 68 Old 12-11-2008, 04:58 AM Thread Starter
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wow! i didnt even know people were still posting in here

to clear up any confusion i wasnt saying ALL western trainers are mean. i was referring to the ones i called. thats why i called the thread 'western trainers sure are mean AROUND HERE'. i was laughed at, ridiculed, told i didnt know what i was talking about amongst other things which is not a good way to be treated.

as jhickie has mentioned, you dont train or ride papers. so hes a warmblood. big deal! he can turn on a 50c piece and has a stop that will ultimately become even better than it is now. im not saying it will be easy but if a quarter horse can do dressage my wb can do reining :)

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post #29 of 68 Old 12-14-2008, 11:44 PM
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How tall is your horse?
I can see to a degree what their "concern" might be.
It doesn't excuse their rudeness...they've could've had bit more tact but I personally have a bad taste for WBs and probably wouldn't go near one either lol yet I work in a barn full of them.
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post #30 of 68 Old 12-15-2008, 11:25 PM
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I don't agree any breed of horse can do anything. Theres a reason that 98% of horses that win money in the NCHA are QH's. When you drop the reins on anything but a cutting horse they either stop cutting, walk or run off. I've had lots of people with other breeds Morgans, Tb's , Standardbreds, etc say their horse and breed can cut but so far no one has done it from them. Its like herding dogs they either do it or they don't you can teach them what and when to do but either they want to cut or herd or they don't. That dropping the reins is the key to if they want to or not.
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