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  • Can you start your green horse in a snaffle with a shank
  • Can i use a stronger bit on a 4 year old gelding

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    07-09-2012, 06:05 PM
  #11
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Originally Posted by Kayella    
Tom Thumbs or similar bits with long shanks can be really harsh on the mouth. Bits with shanks and mouth pieces like that are for very experienced horses and riders with extremely soft hands. They can cause alot of damage in the wrong hands.
Not to mentioning the slow twist!

Jazz, you said you had a green 4 year old gelding right? If this bit was meant for that horse, please do NOT use it. The best thing for a green horse is a snaffle. If you want your horse more responsive, train him to respond to light aids.
     
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    07-09-2012, 06:34 PM
  #12
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Jointed shanked bits can also be quite confusing to the horse, especially if the rider is not educated on how the bit funtions.
You can't really direct rein with shanked jointed bits, because there's no way to control when the leverage action of the bit is applied. You can't really move the bit back and forth in the horse's mouth, the way you can with a snaffle.

The only time I don't mind jointed shanked bits, is when they are a used with two reins (curb rein and snaffle rein), in educated hands. That way the rider is able to control whether the curb action or the snaffle action is applied ;)
     
    07-09-2012, 08:55 PM
  #13
Foal
Thanks guys(: And casey he's 6 and green broke.

Problem is though... the head stall and reins wont come off:(
     
    07-09-2012, 09:15 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by JazzyGirl    
Thanks guys(: And casey he's 6 and green broke.

Problem is though... the head stall and reins wont come off:(

It looks like it's got Chicago screws, a small flathead screw driver (or long, strong finger nails), is all you need to undo them.
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    07-09-2012, 10:10 PM
  #15
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Originally Posted by JazzyGirl    
Yes it does, it that super bad?
It depends on the horse and the rider. What the horse responds best to, and that the rider knows how to use the bit.

This is the bit my horse goes in every ride:



Is that a good bit for every horse? No. Is it a great bit for my horse? Yes.


I don't know your horse and I don't know how you ride, so I can't tell you if the bit you have is going to be a good choice for him. It sounds like he is pretty green, so it's probably not the bit I would choose for him at this point.

At six years old, if you decide at some point to show, he needs to be in a curb bit.
     
    07-10-2012, 02:54 AM
  #16
Foal
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Originally Posted by enh817    
It looks like it's got Chicago screws, a small flathead screw driver (or long, strong finger nails), is all you need to undo them.
Thank you(: You just saved me a head stall and reins!
Im going to sell the bit, if I can't sell it to a person currently interested ill just throw it in the tackshed.
     
    07-10-2012, 04:01 AM
  #17
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Originally Posted by JazzyGirl    
Thank you(: You just saved me a head stall and reins!
Im going to sell the bit, if I can't sell it to a person currently interested ill just throw it in the tackshed.
no problem! Glad to help :)
     
    07-10-2012, 11:07 PM
  #18
Foal
Ever want to try something interesting? Take a regular snaffle (the gentlest bit in the world, so they say!) and have someone place it against the inside of your upper arm near your elbow, have the other person facing you holding the rings. Have them ask for a shoulder lift. Be warned, your skin may come right off! I don't like regular snaffles, much less tom thumbs. That's what you are doing to your horse's tongue! No wonder so many lesson horses gape their mouths open and get sour...
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