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    03-26-2013, 05:41 PM
  #11
bjb
Weanling
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Originally Posted by SlideStop    
I understood you were teaching her in the indoor without tying her. But if you don't give the whole story we have to make assumptions. In simple terms... Horse paws when tied, you don't want said horse to paw, you want to hobble break her to prevent pawing. I have to assume your going to hobble her on the cross ties since that's where/when she paws.

I did post very useful info, now whether you choose to use it is a different story. PS, its a public forum, you can post where ever and whatever you want.
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I really don't understand how you can gather that assumption from that. Besides a person who truly was trying to be helpfull and not rude would inquire rather than assume and spew out random junk. Also I never said I cross tie anyway. I tie to a post or fence or tree or rail... never did I say "cross tie" but I guess that just goes back to your assuming rather than asking to clarify
     
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    03-26-2013, 05:44 PM
  #12
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I too, would prefer you seek guidance from someone with experience hobbling horses. There are too many things that can go serious wrong and cause injury to horse or handler.

However, since you are already hobbling her and it appears you wish to continue to do so, please just proceed with extreme caution! She may totally flip out one day, even if she was perfectly fine the previous several days.

I would not do this daily. Don't want her to resent having her feet messed with, ending up with a horse who's badly behaved for the farrier. Also, the hobbles will not entirely prevent her from digging - horses have been known to figure out how to canter while wearing hobbles! Where there is a will, there's a way...
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    03-26-2013, 06:09 PM
  #13
Yearling
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Originally Posted by SlideStop    
I understood you were teaching her in the indoor without tying her. But if you don't give the whole story we have to make assumptions. In simple terms... Horse paws when tied, you don't want said horse to paw, you want to hobble break her to prevent pawing. I have to assume your going to hobble her on the cross ties since that's where/when she paws.

I did post very useful info, now whether you choose to use it is a different story. PS, its a public forum, you can post where ever and whatever you want.
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You are being rude.

PS I am pretty sure it's along the lines of the forum rules.
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    03-26-2013, 06:15 PM
  #14
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by bjb    
I really don't understand how you can gather that assumption from that. Besides a person who truly was trying to be helpfull and not rude would inquire rather than assume and spew out random junk. Also I never said I cross tie anyway. I tie to a post or fence or tree or rail... never did I say "cross tie" but I guess that just goes back to your assuming rather than asking to clarify
Does it matter, if she is left alone confined by rope she paws correct?

If you don't give all the information people are going to fill in the blanks. You were complaining of you horse pawing when TIED, of course people are going to think you want to tie her legs together to prevent her from pawing. Where? One the cross ties... Your horse's (dont want to assume mare/gelding/stallion) problem area.

1. Find an experienced trainer.
2. Let her paw it out (alternative to hobbling)
3. Be careful, this can be very dangerous for both you can the horse

Seems like sound advice to me.
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    03-26-2013, 06:23 PM
  #15
bjb
Weanling
Thanks those of you who actually replied to my post without being rude. I am officially abandoning this thread. Its obviously not a topic some people on here can discuss in a kind and respectful way. Maybe I will look for a different forum site to discuss things without drama and issues. Thanks again
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    03-26-2013, 06:36 PM
  #16
Showing
Bjb, the pawing is related to fear, in her case not enough to fight it but she'd rather be able to make a fast getaway should a predator come skulking about. This is how horses have survived for millenia. My preference would be to teach her to stand in the arena, while at liberty, not even a halter, practised daily for a week. This exercise helps build trust and the routine helps train.
     
    03-26-2013, 06:36 PM
  #17
Teen Forum Moderator
Slidestop, I often agree with you and do still, to some extent- but I think you could be a bit more tasteful. OP asked a fairly common question and as far as I'm concerned, she's done the training correctly for the most part, so far.This is coming from someone that has hobble trained nearly a dozen horses. I realize its hard not to make assumptions with little information, but its not fair to accuse OP of things or tell her she's being rediculous when you know very little.

By the way, her horse pawing at a rubber mat would likely still do the same amount of damage to her hooves and won't fix anything either. Do realize, too, that once this mare is hobble trained she shouldnt NEED to be tied by the halter. That's the entire point of hobbles.

OP, I don't know if you're still willing to read this thread but if you are, let me know and I'll write you a post on how I hobble train a horse, if you're interested. I'm not sure that hobbles are going to be the solution to her pawing problems necessarily though, because pawing tends to stem from the horse being uneasy and nervous or impatient, and she will likely just pick up another habit if the root of the problem isn't dealt with.
     
    03-26-2013, 06:50 PM
  #18
Green Broke
I apologize if I came off as rude, that wasn't my intent, just to defending my position. I also think the door is swinging both ways. My first post was in no way offensive and, IMO, was met with some fire.

In regards to the matt, it would be, again IMO, better the pawing on cement (coarse sand paper) or dirt (fine sand paper). That's where my thought process was going on that one.

Best of luck to you OP.
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    03-26-2013, 06:52 PM
  #19
bjb
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Endiku    
Slidestop, I often agree with you and do still, to some extent- but I think you could be a bit more tasteful. OP asked a fairly common question and as far as I'm concerned, she's done the training correctly for the most part, so far.This is coming from someone that has hobble trained nearly a dozen horses. I realize its hard not to make assumptions with little information, but its not fair to accuse OP of things or tell her she's being rediculous when you know very little.

By the way, her horse pawing at a rubber mat would likely still do the same amount of damage to her hooves and won't fix anything either. Do realize, too, that once this mare is hobble trained she shouldnt NEED to be tied by the halter. That's the entire point of hobbles.

OP, I don't know if you're still willing to read this thread but if you are, let me know and I'll write you a post on how I hobble train a horse, if you're interested. I'm not sure that hobbles are going to be the solution to her pawing problems necessarily though, because pawing tends to stem from the horse being uneasy and nervous or impatient, and she will likely just pick up another habit if the root of the problem isn't dealt with.
Thank you very much! I would appreciate any knowledge you would like to share with me. I do understand that there is a possibility that it might not help her issues and I accept that. I would like to teach her for other reasons as well. I think it would be an extremly helpful tool to have on the trails because you just never know what is going to happen out there or what your going to have to do. Based on everything that's going on I feel like this is the best choice for her.
I really prefer training my own horses because they don't come with all these pre learned habits and issues but since I have her I feel its my responsibility to teach her and help her learn things that will make her a better horse as a whole. I also understand that not everyone agrees with everything but that's just a part of being involved with horses everyone believes different things.
     
    03-26-2013, 06:52 PM
  #20
Teen Forum Moderator
It seems to me that you both just felt a little defensive at first and things snowballed. You did give some good advice, just maybe not in the most tactful matter ;)

Yes, the mat might help a little bit, but my thought it that if she really does paw that much, she might just end up pawing it up and rendering it useless?

Edit- rather than completely rewriting the same thing, I will link you to a previous post of mine with all of the information from me as well as a few others :)

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