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    03-26-2013, 05:58 PM
  #21
bjb
Weanling
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Originally Posted by SlideStop    
I apologize if I came off as rude, that wasn't my intent, just to defending my position. I also think the door is swinging both ways. My first post was in no way offensive and, IMO, was met with some fire.

In regards to the matt, it would be, again IMO, better the pawing on cement (coarse sand paper) or dirt (fine sand paper). That's where my thought process was going on that one.

Best of luck to you OP.
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I am sorry if my initial reply to you seemed "fiery" that was not my intent I was simply trying to explain how you mis understood my thread. Also in my second reply to you I said "I wasnt trying to argue with you "
Thanks for your appology I honestly do appreciate it
     
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    03-26-2013, 06:06 PM
  #22
bjb
Weanling
Endiku ... Thanks for the link you have been super helpfull
     
    03-26-2013, 06:34 PM
  #23
Trained
BJB - are you hoping that the hobble training will help her to stop pawing when she is tied? I'm not sure that it will, if that's the intent. The two are different animals. And I would never leave a hobbled horse without supervision, so it's not like she will learn to be quiet when left alone with the hobbles on.

I do hobble my horse and if I ever get another horse, that one will be hobble trained as well. I think you can continue to hobble her daily. Unless she has other issues with her feet or behavior in general, I don't think she will get fussy with her feet over being hobbled daily. However, a small bit of hay to keep her occupied might help :)

For the pawing while tied, I would reprimand her. I know you said she does it when you leave, but if you only make it look like you've left then you can still interact. Go around the corner and if she paws then tell her NO! Don't go back to her until she stops. If NO! Doesn't work, maybe you can get into a position where you can reach around with a long crop or whip to hit her legs when she paws. You know what discipline works with your horse. The trick is to make her think she is being watched when she really thought she wasn't being watched!
     
    03-26-2013, 06:56 PM
  #24
bjb
Weanling
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Originally Posted by NorthernMama    
BJB - are you hoping that the hobble training will help her to stop pawing when she is tied? I'm not sure that it will, if that's the intent. The two are different animals. And I would never leave a hobbled horse without supervision, so it's not like she will learn to be quiet when left alone with the hobbles on.

I do hobble my horse and if I ever get another horse, that one will be hobble trained as well. I think you can continue to hobble her daily. Unless she has other issues with her feet or behavior in general, I don't think she will get fussy with her feet over being hobbled daily. However, a small bit of hay to keep her occupied might help :)

For the pawing while tied, I would reprimand her. I know you said she does it when you leave, but if you only make it look like you've left then you can still interact. Go around the corner and if she paws then tell her NO! Don't go back to her until she stops. If NO! Doesn't work, maybe you can get into a position where you can reach around with a long crop or whip to hit her legs when she paws. You know what discipline works with your horse. The trick is to make her think she is being watched when she really thought she wasn't being watched!
am I hoping the hobbles will teach her to stop digging? No absolutly not. I am simply looking for an alternitave route for tacking up and handling I do not intend to leave her alone in them for more than a few seconds. I will walk away to get brushes I may have forgotten in my box or grab her grain or whatever else. I have no intention of just leaving her stand somewhere in them. I am only looking for another option to save on her hooves. You would be shocked at how fast she can wear them down. When I say she digs that's exactly what I mean its not simple pawing she literally has dug herself into a hole in like 10 mins. I have tried all the things you have recomended and they do not fase her. I think with her unfortunatly it may be a unbreakable habit like cribbing :/

I might have to try the hay thing too that's a good idea
     
    03-27-2013, 11:53 PM
  #25
Foal
I hobble train every one of my horses. The country we ride in, doesnt always pose the ability to tie to something solid, and taking a halter and lead takes up valuable beer space!

I start with a cotton rope. Tie it around their legs in a fashion where they wont hurt themselves ( all my horses are used to ropes and stuff dragging around their feet, if you have one that is not you need to start there.)

I start them in my roundpen, where they cannot hurt themselves, but have enough room to move around and figure out how to balance and stand in the rope. Then I progress to my leather and fleece hobbles. After that I have just plain cheap rope and nylon hobbles I use. Most of my guys have no problem loping the f off in the leather hobbles if they choose to. I usually do this daily for three, four days in a row. I might not progress past the leather ones in those days, but once they get the idea I havent had any issues swapping to a different hobble.

I can hobble them in camp and let them eat grass under limited supervision. We tie them at night for obvious reasons.

I had a gelding that was much like your mare. He finally got better after being hobbled for two years when I had him tied. But it seriously took him that long to realize that digging to china wasnt going to help his situation. Once you have filled a 4 foot deep hole. Dug out from packed gravel in a machine shop 3 times you start looking to make your life easier. He as a 7 yr old finally was able to stand at a trailer for a whole 24 hrs without digging a hole.
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    03-28-2013, 12:19 AM
  #26
Green Broke
These hobbling threads always give me a good giggle...

For some reason people think that hobble breaking a horse or restraining his feet is different than halter breaking which is restraining the head, different body part, same concept. Use the same common sense as you would halter breaking and you will be fine. So make sure you stand in a safe spot and let her figure it out. Its really not that traumatic.
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    03-28-2013, 12:33 AM
  #27
Trained
We hobble train every horse here at the station, and they don't get any special preparation. The hobbles go on in the round yard and we leave them alone (still nearby) to figure it out.

All the weavers are hobbled for their first tying lessons as well as a neck collar, and if they show a tendency to paw when tied, they are hobbled EVERY time they are tied up.

We also use sidelines, spider hobbles and collar ropes. Never had an injury worse than some skin off.

All these horses tend to paw wire fences so hobble training is a must if we don't want them ripping their foot off when they get hung up. Most recently a 2yo got her foot caught up on a wire at shoulder height (don't ask me how) and stood there with her foot in the air until we could rescue her.
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    03-28-2013, 12:34 AM
  #28
Trained
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    03-28-2013, 11:08 AM
  #29
bjb
Weanling
Thanks to the last three posters. I knew what I was doing wasnt a as crazy a thing as a lot of people think. I am being safe about it and keeping my horse out of harms way while teaching her. I believe being a regular trail rider there are quite a few situations where it could be a very usefull tool to have.

Katieandscooby.. exactly! Not only is it bad to have her continually messing her feet up but its a huge pain to have to fill in the holes every time we tie her up

Wild spot.... very good point I may have to consider teaching my yearling as well. Best to teach them while their smaller. Thanks!
     
    03-28-2013, 11:11 AM
  #30
bjb
Weanling
COWCHICK77... your right too! My mare didnt seem the least bit traumatized, a little annoyed yes but freaking out in fear? Not even close
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