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post #1 of 20 Old 03-08-2010, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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Would you give joint injections to a 6yo reiner as a preventative measure?

Or do you think they're unnecessary that early? Say the horse JUST started training...
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NO!! Once you start those it's an endless cycle and will actually over time cause more harm to tissue than the benefit it's intended for.

Don't make him/her an old horse before their time.. look into other things as glucosamine, etc

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Don't comprimise a joint with injections unless necessary. Did someone seriously suggest you do knees "preventatively"? Why replace healthy synovial fluid with artificial? Injecting is not a risk free procedure.
Are your horses knees showing signs of soreness? I don't think injecting a knee is a part or being a reiner, as much as it doesn't have to be part of being a racehorse. I've had plenty of racehorses NOT have their knees done and be successful, and IMO, racing is far harder on the knees (we specialize in trotters).
If it does become necessary to inject after exhausting all other treatment regiments (including oral supplements, glucosamine IM, hosing, chiropractic, magnets etc etc), look into the best vet and the best injection. My personal fave is the HI 50 with 1cc cort to help with cooling.
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Yes, several people suggested it to use as a preventative measure in another thread. To be fair, they didn't know the age of the horse, but they did know it was for prevention only.

I was told oral supplements are useless, and I'm not discounting glucosamine IM... is that not considered a joint injection?

Does it actually replace the healthy fluid? How can that be helpful, even on a horse with very little healthy fluid?
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Injectable glucosamine is of more benefit than oral.. oral only 40% actually gets absorbed. No, glucosamine is not a joint injection persay.. glucosamine is something that rebuilds tissue.

I was 'assuming' you were talking about actual Depo hock and or knee injections... apologies if I misunderstood

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Injectable glucosamine is of more benefit than oral.. oral only 40% actually gets absorbed. No, glucosamine is not a joint injection persay.. glucosamine is something that rebuilds tissue.

I was 'assuming' you were talking about actual Depo hock and or knee injections... apologies if I misunderstood
That's okay. So, there are no negative effects of glucosamine injections? If glucosamine "rebuilds" tissue, would it be useless to use as a preventative measure?
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I wouldn't call glucosamine a "joint injection". Going into the joint capsule, expelling the old fluid and putting in a new fluid (cort, HI 5o, etc) is injecting the joint. Glucosamine IM I would think of as preventative, but maybe a little overboard. If she is perfectly sound, well -shod, not overworked I would save your money for those expensive sliding plates when the time comes! Just keep an eye one her overall soundness, and if you think it's necessary, do the IM. I try ro follow the "less is more" phillosophy with stuff like that.

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That's okay. So, there are no negative effects of glucosamine injections? If glucosamine "rebuilds" tissue, would it be useless to use as a preventative measure?
Glucosamine is safe - google it and research it is my best advice to you along with your vets input. I couldn't tell you as far as a 'preventative'. It certainly won't hurt, but as far as to actually prevent problems, no idea.

I have given it to mine after problem onset.. seemed to help but again could have been coincedence.

Stay away from Depomedrol unless it's an absolute have to

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I wouldn't call glucosamine a "joint injection". Going into the joint capsule, expelling the old fluid and putting in a new fluid (cort, HI 5o, etc) is injecting the joint. Glucosamine IM I would think of as preventative, but maybe a little overboard. If she is perfectly sound, well -shod, not overworked I would save your money for those expensive sliding plates when the time comes! Just keep an eye one her overall soundness, and if you think it's necessary, do the IM. I try ro follow the "less is more" phillosophy with stuff like that.
Okay, that sounds good. Thanks so much : ]
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Glucosamine is safe - google it and research it is my best advice to you along with your vets input. I couldn't tell you as far as a 'preventative'. It certainly won't hurt, but as far as to actually prevent problems, no idea.

I have given it to mine after problem onset.. seemed to help but again could have been coincedence.

Stay away from Depomedrol unless it's an absolute have to
Okay... thanks for the the info!
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