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post #1 of 16 Old 04-21-2019, 09:10 AM Thread Starter
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Clearing forest / selling timber

I am hopefully going to look at 20 acres of forested land for sale in Washington state soon. Just to have something to think about, I'm thinking about how I would get the land cleared for pasture. This is smack in the middle of lumber country, so I should be able to get the land cleared and sell the timber and actually get some money out of it (I would leave some forested) BUT of course the company that does that is just going to come in and cut the trees down and leave a bunch of stumps that then need to be cleared (or at least cut down to ground leve). My question is, has anyone ever sold the timber on their land and then used the money to get someone to come in and clear the stumps? Would I be able to break even doing that? Or do I have any other options? If I just left the stumps, how long would it take them to just decompose on their own? This is on the west (wet) side of Washington state. I would love to hear any insight from anyone who has cleared forested land, even if they didn't sell the timber.
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post #2 of 16 Old 04-21-2019, 09:40 AM
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Why can you not make a contract with stump clearing part of the deal?
Many companies also must replenish the land cleared and you can't plant on top of stumps so they must do something...
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By us, the forests are managed, cleared and yes the stumps are gone...
How do I know this...many times the logging areas parallel the riding trails.
Here is Florida land management is huge, so forests are thinned, removed and replaced if unhealthy or invasive trees happen that could decimate the land.
I've not seen how they do away with stumps, but know they is gone.
My friends bf works for forestry..I'll ask him if he knows what they do and get back to this thread/post.
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post #3 of 16 Old 04-21-2019, 03:13 PM
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You asked for other options so why not look at land that's already been cleared and has pasture?
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post #4 of 16 Old 04-21-2019, 03:18 PM
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Make it part of your contract that the lumber company removes the stumps and then grades the land. They'll probably pile the stumps and burn them. Or, depending on the type of wood it is, maybe they can use chippers to mulch it.
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I am a Mossback. I come from Seattle. We have had trees removed, and then the stump ground out. It can be expensive. Whether or not the money from the timber will both pay for the cutting AND the stump grinding is impossible to tell until yo have it evaluated by an arborist or timber man. Are we talking Doug firs? Cedars? Maples?


You can leave the stumps in the ground. The horses don't care . It will take many , many years for them to rot out, tho. If you were going to be mowing the grass, the stumps would then become a royal pain, but for just pasture, no problem. I assume you are taking down some trees to get more sunshine, so you can grow pasture grass?


Be aware that if you are bringing your hroses up from Texas, their hooves will take some time to adjust to the damp soil. They will adjust, tho, but they may have abcesses the first spring, after a long wet winter.



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@pasomountain I will look at another piece of (cleared) land when I go up there this week hopefully, but this is 20 acres of land where it's an easy 10-minute walk into town. I have always wanted acreage, but I don't like the idea of living somewhere where I have to drive every time I want to go anywhere. This area is being developed rapidly, and I doubt that there will ever be another piece of land this good for sale up there. I need to see it in person, but on paper it is my heart property!

@tinyliny thanks for the advice about hooves. If this does work out, what I'd ideally do is find a place to board them for a year or so while I'm getting the land cleared, house built, etc., and hopefully get some advice on that sort of thing, learn about what other issues are going to be new to me, find a farrier, find a vet, etc. But while I had thought about the difference in temperature, I hadn't thought about the moisture.

I haven't walked the property yet (apparently it's super overgrown -- my realtor did not offer to come with me when I walk it, but he did offer to lend me his machete) but from looking at the satellite image plus my own experience living there I expect it's the typical conifer mix you see up there, with some maples and madrona here and there.

It's in north Kitsap county, so depending on where in Seattle you are, we could be "across the water" neighbors, LOL.

I appreciate everyone's advice to just put it in the contract -- that makes a ton of sense.
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Are you sure that the trees will die if the stumps are left? I have a bunch of eucalyptus down here in So Cal that I had cut down a few years ago on my ranch. It would have cost a fortune to have them stump grinded, and I knew that the trees would not die. Every year I go around with my trusty chainsaw and keep them down to about 6 feet.

If I didn't, they would be back to about 30 feet by now. They are pretty on the property, so I kept them, but if I wanted them out I would have had to grind the stumps.
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@whisperbaby22 that's a really good question. I think the trees would die if cut down to stumps. This is the same type of forest that I've seen clear-cut before. What happens is that new saplings will grow from seeds, but the evergreens that are cut down to stumps will not come back. The maples might, however -- they have a sort of weird growth pattern. But I don't believe the maples are marketable, and I like them, so if there were any there, I'd ask the lumber company to just leave them.

I love Eucalyptus trees -- they look so pretty and they smell so good! I wish I could grow them anywhere I lived.
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Eucalyptus are beautiful, and they are everywhere down here. But they are also invasive, and can become a torch in a fire. I wish we could get rid of all of them.

That's the reason I keep mine so small. But having trees cut down costs a fortune, so it's good to figure out what will die and what will just shoot up if you do chop it. Good luck with your search, Washington is such a beautiful place.
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Eucalyptus are beautiful, and they are everywhere down here. But they are also invasive, and can become a torch in a fire. I wish we could get rid of all of them.

That's the reason I keep mine so small. But having trees cut down costs a fortune, so it's good to figure out what will die and what will just shoot up if you do chop it. Good luck with your search, Washington is such a beautiful place.
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