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post #1 of 5 Old 02-16-2020, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
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New stable insulation ideas?

We have a new stable, all concrete floor, stalls 12ft x 12ft, rubber floor mat, I use some pine shavings but mostly straw.
I clean it twice a week. Stall walls are tongue and groove 6" lumber 8ft high. Outside it's pressure treated 6" tongue and groove. It's a steel building.
Problem is horse urine sometimes runs down to mat then over to outside walls.
There's a 6" space between stall wall and steel. I was thinking about insulation for that, maybe loose fill poured in...but I'm thinking what a mess it could be.
Any ideas?
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post #2 of 5 Old 02-16-2020, 09:32 PM
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My first thought was....yuck!
I'm confused because you say it is a metal building but then write of 6" tongue & groove walls inside, got that, and outside tongue & groove walls.... but a steel building??
Do you have just a roof and steel support structure or walls also of metal?

Insulation used where known to be a drainage point and urine accumulation is asking for trouble.
Rust will occur faster from caustic nature of urine on your steel structure...
Wood that gets wet from urine runoff will also rot faster even if PT because urine is caustic, so keeping moisture held in place with soaked insulation...just not a good thing to me.
Stench will start and I also see a place where animals will now burrow into to make nests...rats, mice, bugs, possibly snakes...all those animals like to use soft materials for bedding, warmth factor and nests made of...
Unless you remove walls to form vapor barriers and contain your insulation above and away from the urine...no, just no.
They do make rigid panels of insulation that are more resistant to certain things but again you will be removing large sections of wall to place those sheets in.
Not all insulation is fire-resistant let alone fire-proof so be very careful what you use, where it is in proximity to electrical wires and outlets...
Not sure what is available that would work effectively honestly...
sorry...going to watch for suggestions from others.
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post #3 of 5 Old 02-17-2020, 10:33 AM
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His property has a steep grade so one is terraced. If I remember barn is metal but one side is flush with the terraced part and that has a wood wall for retention.

This is why I dislike concrete floors that do not have built in drainage. Urine will eventually cause damage in places it collects and sits plus it causes bad odor and fumes that can damage lungs if there is not enough ventilation.

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post #4 of 5 Old 02-17-2020, 10:52 AM
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I would expect problems in any situation where you only clean twice a week. I clean my stalls twice a day and my horses are hardly even in them since they have free access to pasture at all times.

Insulation isn't necessary nor useful in barns except maybe the tack room.
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post #5 of 5 Old 02-17-2020, 11:00 AM Thread Starter
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We pasture except at night. Yes it's terraced. Maybe 6"x6" corner vinyl along wall would prevent urine from getting to stall wall.
Using more straw soaks up more urine.
There is plenty of ventilation also.

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