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post #1 of 12 Old 11-16-2019, 01:30 PM Thread Starter
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Waterer Woes

Hi everyone!

I'm looking for some ideas and recommendations to keep my destructive horse from ripping apart the waterer hose.

Every time there's been a rubber hose he likes to yank it and waste a lot of water.

We have this duramate style waterer.
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail....caAlwmEALw_wcB

The hose comes out of the waterer and stays in the stall for about 18" then pops out of a hole and down to the water line.

The horse broke the hose by pulling it out, then we fixed it that day by covering it with a mat per BM request, and used screws and washers as that's what was provided.

Well it was very easy for him to rip the mat off and rip the hose out again. I think in part because it was a mat, which is chewy rubber that he already likes to chew on them, and it was screwed in, not bolted, and had no real defense against being pulled off.

So I would like to keep my horse stalled here and need a solution.

One option I was thinking was to get a metal pipe and elbow to replace the rubber hose until the line is out of the stall, then connect the hose where he can't reach it.

I was also thinking of connecting the hose and covering it with a wood sleeve sort of thing.

There may be other ideas so I'm posting here to see what else you can come up with.

He is very destructive, and will chew wood, mats, anything, over time. Anything that can be destroyed will be!

I've included a photo which shows the output for the hose, and you can see the hole in the stall where the hose goes out.
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post #2 of 12 Old 11-16-2019, 02:28 PM
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I would say swap the rubber hose for metal pipes.

I hate automatic waterera because one of the first signs of a horse being off colour is a change in the amount of water he drinks.
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post #3 of 12 Old 11-16-2019, 03:27 PM
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Maybe (?) you can put electricity on it for awhile (of course do disconnect it from the drinking bowl during that time) ??

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post #4 of 12 Old 11-17-2019, 02:02 AM
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Is there enough play in the hose to secure it to the wall of the stall? I'm picturing using some pipe strap every so often so that he can't get ahold of the hose. This link shows what pipe strap is and you can cut it to the length you need.

https://www.amazon.com/Mintcraft-TWC...pcontext&psc=1
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post #5 of 12 Old 11-17-2019, 03:12 AM
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If not electricity, you mentioned maybe a wooden enclosure for the hose? You can paint that with a stop-chew substance, either commercial or natural. You can also give him some toys for his stall, like the hanging apple-flavored licks or a jolly ball.

https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/anim...-chewing-wood/

As an aside, be aware that constant wood chewing can be an issue of boredum, but can also be a mineral imbalance problem - particularly phosphorus, calcium or magnesium. If you're talking about Dodge, you've explained that he struggles with thrush. Thrush is a symptom of mineral balance, among other factors. You might want to look into that. How much iron is in his diet? Too much iron or manganese can block the uptake of other trace minerals along the concentration gradient of the gut. It also happens when the horse needs more fiber in his diet (my horse once decided to rear up like a brontosaurus just to eat a tree limb...) Does your horse have a consistent supply of grass hay to munch on? Just food for thought.

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post #6 of 12 Old 11-17-2019, 09:04 PM
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Maybe plumb it in 3/8 or 1/2 inch soft copper tubing? Easy, relatively inexpensive, and the supplies should be readily available at a Home Depot or Ace Hardware.

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post #7 of 12 Old 11-20-2019, 11:33 AM Thread Starter
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@Foxhunter ,
I'm not sure what you mean about the horse being off color because of the water he is drinking? Are you referencing his attitude or behavior? If so, this isn't a new behavior, he's been doing this for years. Or are you saying that it's not possible to monitor the quantity of water he is drinking? He is a bit of a ham, so if he's feeling good, or bad, it's very easy to tell with Mr. Drama.

@JCnGrace
I think if we secure it down with a pipe strap he will still chew and try to pull on the rubber hose. I think it would need to be completely covered for him to not play with it.

@Feathers7
I think we will go with the wood enclosure as it seems to be what the BM thought best. I can't give him certain toys because he will eat them. I have to ask people to stop giving him cones and jolly balls because he eats pieces off of them. Not just chewing, but he ingests it. I don't want to give him too much lick-it type stuff as it has a lot of sugar in it. He does have one toy, the Amazing Graze that he can't destroy and gives him entertainment for a short while. His diet is good. He gets fed a low starch grass hay 3x a day, but the quantity needs to be restricted or he will easily become over weight. We can't feed him with a hay net anymore because he will destroy it and they only allow one type at the barn.

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I think that's a great idea I will look into it!
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post #8 of 12 Old 11-20-2019, 11:42 AM
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It sounds like he is bored in the stall and has become destructive as a result. How long is he stalled?

And @Foxhunter I agree about the water, but fortunately at the barn I'm currently at the auto waterers log how many gallons go through so we can still monitor their water intake. It's amazing.

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post #9 of 12 Old 11-20-2019, 12:06 PM
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Is he bored? As well as protecting the waterer with some of the lovely suggestions above it might be a good idea to give him something he can destroy and play with. My horse has destroyed a few whips, lead ropes, gates, buckets, and also a water heater due to her boredom. Regular exercise and turnout with other horses helped a lot, in addition to a couple toys inside her paddock to occupy her.
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post #10 of 12 Old 11-20-2019, 01:38 PM
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If water consumption needs to be monitored, you might try something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Save-a-Drop-P...15394232&psc=1
I have used something similar to check for leaks in an underground sprinkler system. It was considerably more expensive back then.

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