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post #1 of 22 Old 09-25-2020, 09:15 PM Thread Starter
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Wheelbarrow that works on sand

Ok so I am in need of a new wheelbarrow. I had a 4 wheel gorilla cart for 3 yrs now I bought from Home Depot and it has rusted so bad it’s falling apart. I used it strictly for hauling manure. Now I’m on the hunt for a new one. I read some previous post of many people swearing by the Rubbermaid wheelbarrow they have at Home Depot. My question is, can you actually push or pull it easily on sandy soil? The area I pickup the manure from is sand and I need it to roll easily. If not can anyone recommend any others. Thanks.
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My friend had a 2-wheel wheelbarrow that I loved to use as I could fill that thing full and still have stability that no single wheel ever gave.
She also did loose shavings and 1 tub full of shavings was equal to 2 compressed bags of pine shavings....
I'm not sure of what brand hers were, but the tub was huge and plastic/poly. They were a light gray in color or dirty tan.
Wood handle and frame...the tub was much larger than a conventional tub.
I never had issue dragging the thing through the sand riding ring filled with manure on my way to the manure pile area.

She also had another huge tub wheelbarrow with a single tire unlike any ever seen before.
To me it would look like a wheel used on a beach wheelchair...it was so wide and "soft" it could squish with weight of a load on it...great in snow not getting stuck so probably same on sand...
It was no where near as stable when loaded compared to the 2-wheel set-up I used..
The wheel was orange-ish in color I remember....looked like the wheels on this contraption. I've been searching for that wheel...

The wheels I found... https://wheeleez.com/shop/products/w...alloon-wheels/
Called balloon wheels, not cheap, but are made to transport people across sand of a beach setting and not getting stuck!

I happen to like the wheelbarrows seen at Tractor Supply...
Either the 8 cu ft or 10 cu ft capacity poly tub...depending upon location $119 - $149.
If the tub is balanced on the frame correctly you will have no weight on your body to lug around...so easy to move.
The fact it is poly means no rusting.but our sun will still destroy so needs to be put under shade to protect and wood handles still weather no matter what.
Just some ideas...
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My friend had a 2-wheel wheelbarrow that I loved to use as I could fill that thing full and still have stability that no single wheel ever gave.
She also did loose shavings and 1 tub full of shavings was equal to 2 compressed bags of pine shavings....
I'm not sure of what brand hers were, but the tub was huge and plastic/poly. They were a light gray in color or dirty tan.
Wood handle and frame...the tub was much larger than a conventional tub.
I never had issue dragging the thing through the sand riding ring filled with manure on my way to the manure pile area.

She also had another huge tub wheelbarrow with a single tire unlike any ever seen before.
To me it would look like a wheel used on a beach wheelchair...it was so wide and "soft" it could squish with weight of a load on it...great in snow not getting stuck so probably same on sand...
It was no where near as stable when loaded compared to the 2-wheel set-up I used..
The wheel was orange-ish in color I remember....looked like the wheels on this contraption. I've been searching for that wheel...

The wheels I found... https://wheeleez.com/shop/products/w...alloon-wheels/
Called balloon wheels, not cheap, but are made to transport people across sand of a beach setting and not getting stuck!

I happen to like the wheelbarrows seen at Tractor Supply...
Either the 8 cu ft or 10 cu ft capacity poly tub...depending upon location $119 - $149.
If the tub is balanced on the frame correctly you will have no weight on your body to lug around...so easy to move.
The fact it is poly means no rusting.but our sun will still destroy so needs to be put under shade to protect and wood handles still weather no matter what.
Just some ideas...
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Thanks for your response. Here is the one I’m thinking of buying but don’t know how it will work on sand.
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Nope...tires are narrow and hard tread so will cut through and sink in the sand.
This thing is made to tow across grass not a sandy paddock.
For me the handle is not comfortable in size, height or shape...cutting into my hand palm.
I don't think trying to balance the weight on that thing loaded is going to be easy or comfortable for your back forget your arms...
I would not..just wouldn't.
You need to load it with cement blocks and drag it around the store for an hour and see how you feel...now remember that is on only hard "paved" surface, what happens when you need to drag trough sand and not flat & perfectly level ground surface..
It is also a awkward height to load, forget dump, at least for me.

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I agree with HLG ó no the cart you posted. Youíre just asking to pull your innards out with that one. Youíre whole body would be doing the work, thereís no comfortable leverage point To that.

Iím for going back to a four wheel cart and maybe spending the extra money to put those wheels on that HLG posted. Yes, it would be a lot of money but this cart is plastic and the whole thing would last forever, if you kept it covered or out of the sun:)

This one is poly material.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/GORILLA-...0-16/300495305

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Nope...tires are narrow and hard tread so will cut through and sink in the sand.
This thing is made to tow across grass not a sandy paddock.
For me the handle is not comfortable in size, height or shape...cutting into my hand palm.
I don't think trying to balance the weight on that thing loaded is going to be easy or comfortable for your back forget your arms...
I would not..just wouldn't.
You need to load it with cement blocks and drag it around the store for an hour and see how you feel...now remember that is on only hard "paved" surface, what happens when you need to drag trough sand and not flat & perfectly level ground surface..
It is also a awkward height to load, forget dump, at least for me.

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Thanks for your response. I guess I’m back to square one. Trying to find one that is two wheels and not too heavy or hard to handle. Specially as you said when pulling or pushing through sand.
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This design would fit your needs...



You need to decide on cu ft capacity since the range is large from 6 - 10 cu ft is a large difference in material being able to be moved.
A regular inflated wheelbarrow tire should not be sinking ridiculously in your horses pasture/paddock sand.
Unless your paddock/pasture is loose beach sand, pushing or pulling this through a normal couple of inches of depth should not be a issue...if you can walk through it and not feel the burn you get walking on loose beach sand you should be good pushing/pulling through with normal wheelbarrow tires.

The wheeled cart you showed had tires to narrow to work successfully and without you killing yourself moving it once loaded with horse poop as is your plan.
The fact you have no leverage point adjustable without that leverage taking its toll on your arms and back because the handle is built part of the hopper holding product is what makes the design not the better choice for most.
A wheelbarrow whether it has steel or wood frame is constructed to balance the weight on the axle which is now several feet away from your body. Adding double wheels just allows you to move more product with a very stabile, non-tip ease single wheel wheelbarrows just don't offer.
So, the tires.... what you showed on that cart are very narrow...a regular wheelbarrow has a pretty wide tire.
Think of a bicycle and its purpose...
A road racer has as narrow a tire as possible for fast, easy movement on hard paved surfaces.
A mountain bike has a much wider tire for stability and ease of churning through terrain other than paved or hard-pack with the least effort.
Can either be interchanged, sure...of course.
But when looking to buy with a purpose known of cleaning poop from a sandy environment you look for the design that affords your body the least work and stress added to accomplish the task...
To me, that takes out the design of the cart you chose.
Keep looking though cause if you found something similar wide wide tires...maybe it would work.
I still think having longer shafts so leverage and load weight is placed on the implement and not on you as the balancing point is better for your body.
In all honesty, the 2 wheeled wheelbarrow I was able to fill to capacity and move holding one handle it was that well balanced and not stressing on my body in back, arm or shoulder at all.
One thing that did make a difference was we had to make a wider ramp onto the poop truck{dumptruck} as my wheels were nearly 2' wide spaced...we actually all benefited from a wider planking to walk up pushing heavy loads safer.
That "spacing" between wheels though is what allowed the weight to be pivoted on the implement and not on me.
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This design would fit your needs...



You need to decide on cu ft capacity since the range is large from 6 - 10 cu ft is a large difference in material being able to be moved.
A regular inflated wheelbarrow tire should not be sinking ridiculously in your horses pasture/paddock sand.
Unless your paddock/pasture is loose beach sand, pushing or pulling this through a normal couple of inches of depth should not be a issue...if you can walk through it and not feel the burn you get walking on loose beach sand you should be good pushing/pulling through with normal wheelbarrow tires.

The wheeled cart you showed had tires to narrow to work successfully and without you killing yourself moving it once loaded with horse poop as is your plan.
The fact you have no leverage point adjustable without that leverage taking its toll on your arms and back because the handle is built part of the hopper holding product is what makes the design not the better choice for most.
A wheelbarrow whether it has steel or wood frame is constructed to balance the weight on the axle which is now several feet away from your body. Adding double wheels just allows you to move more product with a very stabile, non-tip ease single wheel wheelbarrows just don't offer.
So, the tires.... what you showed on that cart are very narrow...a regular wheelbarrow has a pretty wide tire.
Think of a bicycle and its purpose...
A road racer has as narrow a tire as possible for fast, easy movement on hard paved surfaces.
A mountain bike has a much wider tire for stability and ease of churning through terrain other than paved or hard-pack with the least effort.
Can either be interchanged, sure...of course.
But when looking to buy with a purpose known of cleaning poop from a sandy environment you look for the design that affords your body the least work and stress added to accomplish the task...
To me, that takes out the design of the cart you chose.
Keep looking though cause if you found something similar wide wide tires...maybe it would work.
I still think having longer shafts so leverage and load weight is placed on the implement and not on you as the balancing point is better for your body.
In all honesty, the 2 wheeled wheelbarrow I was able to fill to capacity and move holding one handle it was that well balanced and not stressing on my body in back, arm or shoulder at all.
One thing that did make a difference was we had to make a wider ramp onto the poop truck{dumptruck} as my wheels were nearly 2' wide spaced...we actually all benefited from a wider planking to walk up pushing heavy loads safer.
That "spacing" between wheels though is what allowed the weight to be pivoted on the implement and not on me. <img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://www.horseforum.com/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" />
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Makes perfect sense, specially when I have two torn meniscus after falling off roof rafters. I am looking for something like the picture you posted, I just thought of that Rubbermaid since lots of people were swearing by it. The sand compacts really well after a hard rain here in central Florida, but they loosen it when they lay down at night. They are big 18 hand Shire boys so they tend to make these huge indentations in the sand. &#x1f602;&#x1f602; But I will take that one in consideration and keep looking to see if I find one with wider tires. Thanks again, your always very helpful.
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All the stores have the 2-wheel wheelbarrow things...
Tractor Supply, Rural King, Walmart, Northern and a bunch of others including the local hardware store.
Price shop cause there is a difference.
I found that picture on Tractor Supply website in honesty...
I would comparison shop between Walmart, TS & Rural King...go and look at the product for the best construction and durability factor.
I know TS in their own stores have different pricing and they will honor other competitors prices for like items...
If you find a 8 cu ft wheelbarrow in Walmart for $10 less than TS, take a picture and go see the store manager at TS who corporate policy states like or similar is meet or beat.
If you have a Rural King local, they absolutely do the same price match, meet or beat especially if they can steal a TS customer.

True story...mine.
I know for a fact they will do this as I saw a hay spear at RK...
I went to TS to see theirs...liked theirs better but it was $285 more...
We were talking to the assistant store manager asking questions...
He asked me if I had "proof" of their price/product...of course it was on the internet.
With him seeing a picture of same appearing, similar capability he met the price immediately.
So, I bought the spear at TS who also had the product in stock.
Savings was in my pocket..
Hence my long story and price shop around for what you want in design especially with limitations on you from injury, pick & purchase very carefully.

Costs nothing to ask about price matching and your money being spent in a store or their competition speaks loudly. Use that to your advantage..

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One of these may work: poly tub won't rust, 4 wide tires for sand and stability, dump feature. Our T.S., Lowes & H. Depot sells them.2020_09_26_10.42.54.jpg

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