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post #21 of 42 Old 08-25-2016, 02:29 PM
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Fords just seem more comfortable to ride in to me. Something more "work truck feeling" about a Chevy. I love the huge back seat area in the crew cab too. Plenty of room for my tack with the seats folded up. Since I don't have a tack room in my trailer, a place for tack is important. My current truck is an extended cab, and that worked fine when it is just me and one horse. But often I am carrying a second horse and a second set of tack. Plus I want to be able to camp out again.

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One of the major reasons I picked a Duramax over Dodge or Ford diesel is that both Dodge and Ford had an incredibly higher noise level in the cab and I hated that. I have all of my hearing, and I want to retain it. Also, I have cats, and I didn't want to subject my cats to deafening noise for hours if they had to ride in the truck. With gasoline engines, the difference was not so marked, but the Dodge still had a lot of transfer case and road noise that the Chevy didn't have. The last gasser Ford I drove was a '96, so that's too far back to be a valid data point. lol

re. the Chevy "work truck" feel, there is actually a "work truck" version in the gasser, and I hated everything about it. It rode rough, lacked the sound deadening of the higher level gassers and the Duramaxes, and the seats were hard and far less comfortable. A friend has a 2004 long bed extended cab Chevy 2500HD with the 6L gasoline engine and Allison transmission, and it is a wonderful truck, comfort-wise, for either local or long-distance drives. Quiet, smooth, doesn't beat you to death with truckishness. Historically, the 2500HD and 3500HD Chevys have always had softer springs than the 3/4T Fords and Dodges.

Extended cab vs. regular or crew: If you have or ever foresee having a gooseneck, you'd want the 8' bed. You can carefully pull one with a shorter bed, but it takes skill and diligence. (The friend with the 2500HD ext cab used to have short bed truck to pull his same gooseneck trailer. But he is a professional truck driver and can easily adapt to flaws and limitations of any setup.) But your problem with a 8' bed + extended cab is the truck is too long to fit into conventional parking spaces. The problem is even worse with a crew cab + 8' bed. If you are looking at short bed trucks, be sure to investigate fuel tank size on a short bed vs. what you'd get on a truck with 8' bed. I can drive a long ways on a tank with my Duramax, but my sister and nephew found they had to stop to refuel the shortbeds much more frequently.
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Extended cab vs. regular or crew: If you have or ever foresee having a gooseneck, you'd want the 8' bed. You can carefully pull one with a shorter bed, but it takes skill and diligence. (The friend with the 2500HD ext cab used to have short bed truck to pull his same gooseneck trailer. But he is a professional truck driver and can easily adapt to flaws and limitations of any setup.) But your problem with a 8' bed + extended cab is the truck is too long to fit into conventional parking spaces. The problem is even worse with a crew cab + 8' bed. If you are looking at short bed trucks, be sure to investigate fuel tank size on a short bed vs. what you'd get on a truck with 8' bed. I can drive a long ways on a tank with my Duramax, but my sister and nephew found they had to stop to refuel the shortbeds much more frequently.
I have been driving Ford F-250/350s for several years. Always went the biggest cab with the standard 6' bed. There are absolutely no issues with my gooseneck trailer.

I believe the equivalent Chevy bed is a few inches shorter. Based on my clearances, I don't see how that would be a problem either.

The 8' bed is complete overkill... unless you need a bed that long or have some about your particular trailer which requires it. You are correct about the extra size making parking a problem. It's hard enough with the standard 6' bed models. I am always worried about a ticket when parking on the street because the truck is longer than the painted parking spot lines. :)

You may be thinking of the models which have the really short bed. I believe that is under 5' long. The "standard" bed on the big cabs, however, is not an issue.

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Never buy a first year model, or second for that matter. They might be ok to buy on the third year.

As for repair cost of aluminum, well a show I watch discussed this and currently aluminum is currently more expensive but that wont last. First of all, you've got to get your body techs trained up and experienced working on aluminum body panels. Aluminum is not steel and reacts differently, that extra experience means paying more $/hr to keep them working for you until more body techs are trained up. Second reason is shops also have to buy some new equipment to handle those panels that needs to be paid off. Show said in 3-5 years the price for repairs should equalize.
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I am a ford guy, through and through. But, I won't be buying a new one. That aluminum body worries me, I have seen a couple really bad wrecks, and the aftermath was ugly!
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In all likelihood, I probably won't ever buy another GM product after they fleesed the Stock and bond holders, never mind the taxpayer.

Can't say I'm interested in a truck with an Aluminum body either....

Dodge also took the money.......

I'll probably just try to keep my 99 Ford F350 going until something proves itself again....

Frankly, I think the EPA drove Ford to the aluminum body, and with truck fuel mileage and pollution standards changing significantly in the next decade, I'm not really sure what we're all going to do, but I'm pretty sure we'll all be spending a lot more money to do it.
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Government Motors, just say No!

Yeah, it's the EPA standards that Obama put in place driving the bus. To reach 50mpg fleet standard every single vehicle will have to be lightened up. FYI, heavy duty trucks used to be exempted from fleet standards but no longer. There was a reason heavy duty vehicles were exempted from fleet standards...Anyway, this means every pickup manufacturer is going to have to significantly reduce vehicle weight, due to the laws of physics, to do their part in helping the fleet standard reach 50mpg.

Want a good laugh? To reach an average of 50mpg for the fleet a manufacturer has to be selling a lot of vehicles that significantly exceed 50mpg to bring the entire average up. How many vehicles do we have on the road right now that exceed or even reach 50mpg??? The Prius? Only one I can think of off the top of my head and I don't know if they average 50 in all around driving. Car manufactures have said the goal just isn't attainable and I for one believe them.
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So, the work "heavy" implies certain things.

Over the past few years, horse power and torque have increased and there's some beasts of trucks out there now.....

Towing capacity's keep increasing.

For me, Fords the only choice. They didn't take the money.
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Reviving this thread for more input.

Have been having a bit of problem with my 2003 F150 lately when towing my trailer. Hard to explain since nothing is technically wrong, but it just doesn't seem to have the power it used to. I realize it is 14 yrs old and has 170K miles on it, but I still need it...

Have been thinking, could the problem be the new gas with ethanol in it? Don't believe my truck was designed to use ethanol. I have recently started putting in mid level gas instead of regular in the hope that will help.

If I have to buy a new truck; been thinking what I am willing to give up. My next truck will be my last truck and plan to drive it for the next ten years or so. Most important is that it hauls my trailer and two horses. Figure on 5000 pounds towing.

So how would y'all rank the following in order of importance. What would you be willing to do without? Why or why not?

1) regular, extended or crew cab
2) 4WD or RWD
3) leather, cloth or vinyl interior
4) back-up camera
5) cruise control
6) power windows/doors
7) diesel or gas burner

What would you buy (new)?
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I've always been a Ford girl myself but my boyfriend just got the new chevy colorado diesel which can haul a 2 horse trailer easy. Its a mid sized truck and gets incredible gas mileage as well as super spacious inside. If I ever get a truck I would want to get the one he has.

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Not sure what your loss of power problem is. When was the last time you had regular maintenance? It could be fuel issue. It could be the air filter. :)

From what I understand, higher octane won't help. I have been told that higher octane in vehicles designed for regular octane fuels is less efficient. Don't recall the technical explanation, but it made sense to me when I heard it. If ethanol is the issue, you need to find ethanol free gas - a few stations offer that now.

You might also try some additives and/or a different brand of fuel.

On your list:

1) regular, extended or crew cab

Crew or nothing. I love the extra space. Also travel often with 4 dogs (and people). I have stayed with Ford trucks because their crew cab has about 6 extra inches of room in the back.

2) 4WD or RWD

4WD or nothing. :). My first pickup was a RWD. Got stuck one too many times in a field with my horse trailer. Rainy season (spring) and RWD is a recipe for disaster.

3) leather, cloth or vinyl interior

Leather or nothing. Can't stand vinyl (not sure they make it any more). Cloth is impossible to keep clean with the dogs. My area has a lot of red clay soil and the mud stains cloth interior.

4) back-up camera

Nice, but not necessary for me. I haven't had a car/truck in almost 10 years that didn't come with one standard.

5) cruise control
6) power windows/doors

Every truck/car I have seen in recent memory has these as standard. In my area, you would have to go out of your way to find a vehicle without it. That said, they are kind of essential features.

7) diesel or gas burner

This depends on your situation. I tend to trade in and get a new truck every 3-4 years. Usually look to trade at about 60-80,000 miles. In addition to trailering, my truck is also my everyday vehicle. For my use situation, gas is the way to go. I will not see the value in the extra cost of a Diesel engine. If you are going to keep your truck 14+ years and put 170k miles on it, diesel is probably the better option.



Which truck? My last few have been Ford F-250/350 trucks. I am a big fan. I would also consider a Chevy - they are also great trucks. I pull a 3 horse gooseneck and my 250 doesn't blink. That said, my next truck may be an F-150. For a 2-horse trailer/5,000 lbs a 150 or 1500 class is plenty.
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