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post #11 of 37 Old 02-15-2017, 08:02 AM
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That last sentence made me laugh out loud I figured that they must be pretty good, as my loaner is a diesel from 199+ and still runs ok, despite the fact that it was started for years without waiting for the pre glow (or however you call that in English) and minimum TLC.
So you would not be worried about 300+k miles on it? A friend of mine (who is a mechanic) apparently doesn't like Fords and warned against anything with plenty of miles...
It depends on where you are. Are you in an area where there are good diesel mechanics? Can you get parts easily? (I never had any trouble getting parts on the very rare occasions we needed them, but I'm in the US. I only ever had that truck in the shop twice for anything other than routine maintenance.) Your friend may dislike Fords in general, but even non-Ford fans agree that this engine is THE engine to get in Ford Trucks. The newer ones are generally rated, "crap". You might look into replacing the glow plugs, at around 300,000 miles, that's what we replaced. Diesel will last longer than gas, even with minimum care and no, I wouldn't worry about 300K miles on it, that's what mine had back in 2011 when I sold it (for almost what I paid for it in 2001). I wouldn't TOUCH a gas truck with that many miles. The only thing I noticed with the truck we had was, if it got cold, it had to be plugged in. Newer trucks don't seem to need that, my 2011 Dodge doesn't even have a place to plug it in. That said, when I buy a new truck if I live that long, I may go back to Ford. I had almost ZERO trouble with the Ford, and only 1 recall. I had 3 recalls on my Dodge within the first year of owning it, and they all took more than 6 months to get fixed. I've been really unhappy with Dodge's customer care, though I really love my truck. Ford got their stuff in, fixed and back on the road very quickly.
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I have an f150 with the 5.4 for towing....it tows ok....obviously bigger would be better. I'm looking into selling it and upgrading to a 250 but I'm staying away from the 250's with the 5.4. While the 5.4 is VERY reliable it just lacks power in my opinion. I don't know what kind of upgrades they made to it for the 250 but after towing with it for years in my 150 I don't want to try it. The MPG is HORRIBLE too with the 5.4, if I'm LUCKY I get 9mpg towing...then around town 13-16. On highway I can sometimes get up to 20 though if its not through the mountains.
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The MPG is HORRIBLE too with the 5.4, if I'm LUCKY I get 9mpg towing...then around town 13-16. On highway I can sometimes get up to 20 though if its not through the mountains.
*gulp* be glad you don't have to pay Swiss gas prices (~$8/g)

I know the thread is about F250'ies, but I came across a 01 Ram 2500 Cummins Turbo Diesel that looks really nice too... Same price range as the 99 diesel, but has a little more "creature comforts"....

Sheesh, I through buying a horse is hard, lol!
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We own a 1999 F350 7.3 with 320,000 miles on it. As others have said a bullet proof engine. Still pulls fully loaded cattle trailers, car haulers etc. We live in NW IL and that thing is as cold blooded as they come. And it "Likes" to be driven. If you are only planning on hauling short distances you are going to carb up the truck and ask for a world of issues.

We also have a 5.4L V8 gas engine in my 1998 Expedition. It has hauled hay racks, horse trailers (smaller trailers) and other things with no issues. It currently has 264,000 (=) miles on it and I am hoping for at least 400,000 before I break down and buy another vehicle.

Be very honest about how often you will haul, how many hills etc you will haul on. Bigger is not always better and you will pay for it in gas mileage and repair costs if you are not using the older diesel engines the way they were meant to be used. We also have a 2012 F250 diesel. That thing drives like a car, speeds up really really fast (for a large truck) is the smoothest ride ever and hauls our 3 horses as if they are not even there. And we can get 15-18 MPG when hauling on flat roads (fully loaded) This is our replacement truck for the 7.3 - which my son now drives.

Diesels are more expensive upkeep wise. olil changes are $100 - fuel filters need to be changed at least once a year ($100) diesel in my area tends to be more pricey than gas, you have to have additive for some diesels

Do the math and be honest about where and how you are going to haul. My Expedition hauled 2 horses in a steel stock trailer for many years - we may not have accelerated really quickly but we could go anywhere we wanted.
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the 5.3 ls and 6.0 gm gas engines are dead nuts reliable as well.. know 10+ personally with 250-400k miles on them.. none have been rebuilt.. my friend just inherited his dads 99 silverado with 345k miles on it because he decided finally to buy a new one.. he had a torque converter go out and in 15+ years of ownership.. only non normal wear and tear item go out. New ones yet pricey.. can get 20+ mpg easily.. he said he gets like 16-17 pulling his boat.. 18 foot double axle trailer, and my neighbor has a 02 suburban just rolled 300k miles with the 5.3 as well
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It depends on where you are. Are you in an area where there are good diesel mechanics? Can you get parts easily? (I never had any trouble getting parts on the very rare occasions we needed them, but I'm in the US. I only ever had that truck in the shop twice for anything other than routine maintenance.) Your friend may dislike Fords in general, but even non-Ford fans agree that this engine is THE engine to get in Ford Trucks. The newer ones are generally rated, "crap". You might look into replacing the glow plugs, at around 300,000 miles, that's what we replaced. Diesel will last longer than gas, even with minimum care and no, I wouldn't worry about 300K miles on it, that's what mine had back in 2011 when I sold it (for almost what I paid for it in 2001). I wouldn't TOUCH a gas truck with that many miles. The only thing I noticed with the truck we had was, if it got cold, it had to be plugged in. Newer trucks don't seem to need that, my 2011 Dodge doesn't even have a place to plug it in. That said, when I buy a new truck if I live that long, I may go back to Ford. I had almost ZERO trouble with the Ford, and only 1 recall. I had 3 recalls on my Dodge within the first year of owning it, and they all took more than 6 months to get fixed. I've been really unhappy with Dodge's customer care, though I really love my truck. Ford got their stuff in, fixed and back on the road very quickly.
Also, if you live in the "Rust Belt" here in the Midwest where they salt the road in the winter, you are going to have a truck that literally melts away long before the motor goes. I know the truck you are looking at and all of them in my area have doors and fenders falling off and worse yet, frames! Great diesel engines as everyone says but the bodies don't last around here!
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*gulp* be glad you don't have to pay Swiss gas prices (~$8/g)

I know the thread is about F250'ies, but I came across a 01 Ram 2500 Cummins Turbo Diesel that looks really nice too... Same price range as the 99 diesel, but has a little more "creature comforts"....

Sheesh, I through buying a horse is hard, lol!
My current truck is a 2011 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Turbo Diesel 4X4 and I LOVE it. Just haven't been crazy with their customer service and the number of recalls on the vehicles. Run that truck's VIN under a recall checker and make sure it's had any necessary services done. Otherwise, I can't say a bad thing about the Dodge's. I drove one at work for years and had a gas 1500 as my personal vehicle for quite a few years too. Used the Ford for towing though, the 1500 was just a "Boulevard Beast".
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Thanks for all the input!
Seems like the search goes on, as all the trucks I was looking at have sold in the meantime (not really surprising given the price range I am looking at).


But now I can really sit down an make my "laundry list" (after some math, thanks @carshon for reminding me to do so :) )
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Also, if you live in the "Rust Belt" here in the Midwest where they salt the road in the winter, you are going to have a truck that literally melts away long before the motor goes. I know the truck you are looking at and all of them in my area have doors and fenders falling off and worse yet, frames! Great diesel engines as everyone says but the bodies don't last around here!
Luckily we have basically no snow (and roads are not salted either) and I live far enough from the coast to not have problems with that either...


I feel like such a I-have-no-idea-about-anything, but I stumbled over a nice ram, reasonably priced... The owner even admits that it has some rust (and I've heard that older rams are notorious for rust).
If this (see pic) is the only rust (and the frame is still solid) what do you think? It looks substantial to me, but I am not used to rust
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Luckily we have basically no snow (and roads are not salted either) and I live far enough from the coast to not have problems with that either...


I feel like such a I-have-no-idea-about-anything, but I stumbled over a nice ram, reasonably priced... The owner even admits that it has some rust (and I've heard that older rams are notorious for rust).
If this (see pic) is the only rust (and the frame is still solid) what do you think? It looks substantial to me, but I am not used to rust
Keep looking, or get it for a cheap enough price that you can send it straight into the body shop for repair. Anything that looks that bad on the outside, I'd be afraid to see what's still under the paint but has spread. IMO, if it's been neglected to that extent on the 'cosmetics', then what have they skimped on in maintenance?
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