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post #1 of 14 Old 06-14-2016, 03:44 PM Thread Starter
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Towing with F-150 2.7 Ecoboost

I recently traded in (didn't want to, had some tranny issues) my 2014 F150 4x4 with the 3.5L ecoboost engine (great truck), and walked away with a 2016 F150 4x4 with the 2.7L ecoboost. It's rated to haul 7,600 pounds. My 3 horse trailer (gooseneck) is 4,400 pounds. I typically haul no more than 2 horses. I figure that with 2 horses and tack I'm somewhere around 6,600-6,900 pounds, and I'm comfortable with that. But on the rare occasions that I do haul a third horse, it's going to have me right at towing capacity, possibly over just a bit.

My question is do any of you have this engine and pull a similar load? How have you felt about it?

I love the better gas mileage, but I'm wondering if I made a mistake not going with the 3.5L engine. I only haul that much once every two weeks on average for approximately 3-4 hours round trip.

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post #2 of 14 Old 06-14-2016, 04:14 PM
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What length bed does that have? My uncle recently got a 2016 2.7L ecoboost and its bed is so short. He let me test drive it, and while it felt powerful, I don't know how comfortable I'd even be towing my 2 horse BP trailer with it. It just feels SO light! With hauling livestock I personally do NOT like to push the limits, since those tow limits don't take in account moving animals. I try to leave myself a 20% buffer in capacities, maybe that seems crazy but it makes me feel safer. 20% of 7600lbs would be 1520lbs, leaving you with 6080 lbs if you stayed in MY safety zone. But as I said before, is that truck going to be heavy enough to stop such a big trailer? Is your bed long enough to safely tow a GN?
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post #3 of 14 Old 06-14-2016, 04:20 PM Thread Starter
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It only has the 5.5' bed.

That said. My 2014 truck was the same size bed, and I had no problems with turning radius at all.

Ive heard some folks say that they believe Ford has set the towing capacity well below what it really is. I just don't know.

By the way, this truck has the 3.55 ratio axle.
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post #4 of 14 Old 06-15-2016, 06:25 PM
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You can't rely on Ford under rating the towing capacity or any other manufacturer for that matter. Towing is part of the pickup wars so I would bet on them pushing the published number up to darn near engineered maximum if not actually at it.

As for you particular combo, you are running to darn close to maximum for my liking on a 1/2 ton. I don't ever recommend towing with 1/2 tons anyway and if you do, don't push them. They really lighten everything up on 1/2 tons to get fuel mileage up for their fleet average, dropping live loads on those lightened figures worries me more than a little.

As a side note, I went to look up the hp/torque of the 2.7 and how the curves look. While the torque curve isn't flat you are not that far off from max torque at 1500 RPM which is pretty good. It does fall off quite a bit by the time you start hitting peak HP but that isn't a surprise.
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Will it tow it? Yes. Can it stop it? That's iffy.


I would upgrade the brakes and the electric brakes on the trailer to be safe. If your trailer doesn't have brakes then I'd say no way, don't even attempt it. My Durango is rated to pull quite a bit but I personally won't tow with anything less than a 3/4 ton pickup with a diesel engine and airbag suspension. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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Will it tow it? Yes. Can it stop it? That's iffy.


I would upgrade the brakes and the electric brakes on the trailer to be safe. If your trailer doesn't have brakes then I'd say no way, don't even attempt it. My Durango is rated to pull quite a bit but I personally won't tow with anything less than a 3/4 ton pickup with a diesel engine and airbag suspension. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
We pulled a very large , heavy 2 horse trailer that we frequently put 3 small horses in.

We also frequently hauled 1.5 cords of wood in that trailer for a total of 12 cords a year for the past 6 years.

We pulled for 15 years with a 99 Duragno, 5.9L with the tow pkg. That vehicle was a lean mean towing machine. Bad thing was its an automatic and with our mountains I had to drive very carefully not to over use the brakes. But we did OK. 15 years and no transmission issues

It had no issues pulling or stopping our loads. Trailer brakes worked nicely.

We just moved up to a 16' stock trailer thats really heavy and bought an older diesel f250 with overload springs.

I really miss my Durango for its ability to turn tight. Now with this pickup I need an acre or 2 LOL
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You are pushing the upper limits of the rating with 3 horses and IMO even 2 horses is iffy since I prefer to have a spare 20% since horses move around in the trailer. Also, just because a pickup can pull the trailer doesn't mean it should be used----you want a pickup that will handle the trailer in the most horrific situations possible, stop it easily if the brake on the trailer fail and someone cuts you off, and can accelerate so you aren't slowing down traffic and being a road hazard.


We pull our steel 3 horse slant with a large dressing room with a 1 ton crew cab dually---it may take 40 acres to turn that rig around (Kidding!), but we have plenty of power to handle the trailer in the worst conditions imaginable (already have been there, done that with this rig several times), braking ability to stop quickly even if the trailer brakes fail, and have acceleration to keep up with traffic even in the Rockies.
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Agree that I would not feel comfortable hauling with a 1/2 Ton, esp on any major hills.
My husbands work truck is a F150 4 X4, but the most we haul with it, is a utility trailer
For years I drove a Silverado diesel 3/4 4X4, with extended cab an long box. Yes, the turning radius was a pita, but since we only used it for hauling horses, 95% of the time, it lasted me a good 12 years
We now have a heavy duty gas Silverado 3/4 ton
I powered out on amajor hill once, due to not lac k of towing power, but trusting just 4 X 4 , where I should also have had chains!
It was late OCT, and all the hills in tot he YA Ha were snow packed, but I climbed them all, except that last one, where the approach doe snot allow any run at that twisting climb. Part way up, I spun out, and the truck could not hold the trailer, which then dragged me and the horses backwards. I tried to steer, but the trailer jack knifed, and just when I thought at which point I should jump, thus abandon the horses, I felt the trailer drop over the edge, then stop after a few feet
Someone was looking out for us that day, as where the trailer went over the bank, there was a clump of poplars growing a few feet down, and that is what prevented a sure disaster
That was a wake up call, so now I make sure never to power out on a hill, for any reason, so would never haul my gooseneck with a 150 half ton
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Wow @Smilie , that would have been scary. A couple of decades ago we live in a house up on a hill with a turn into the garage. One snowy day, I easily drove up the driveway in our front wheel drive car, but it lost traction when I slowed down for the turn into the garage and slid all the way back down the driveway to the road. That was scary enough without cliffs and horses to worry about.
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Wow @Smilie, that would have been scary. A couple of decades ago we live in a house up on a hill with a turn into the garage. One snowy day, I easily drove up the driveway in our front wheel drive car, but it lost traction when I slowed down for the turn into the garage and slid all the way back down the driveway to the road. That was scary enough without cliffs and horses to worry about.
Exactly, that's why I mentioned stopping power too. I was with a friend of mine years ago with her 1/2 ton truck and a steel stock trailer with two Icelandics in it and coming down a steeper hill we had to stop quick but the trailer kept pushing us and we rear ended the car in front of us because the truck literally could NOT stop that trailer!! Luckily no one human or beastie were hurt but it could have been really bad.
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