Originally Posted by DanteDressageNerd View Post
The first video, I dont think the horse looks unhappy at all. I think he looks focused and like he's thinking and trying. There is nothing I see that makes me think the horse is unhappy.
The constantly chomping, spittle running, the tenseness in his neck & face... is what gives me the idea.
I dont think he ever got that behind the vertical, yes he got deep but it wasnt from being pulled against, it was from the hind end bringing him deeper, not from Charlotte blocking the front or pulling him behind.
If he wasn't btv, then I actually don't know what that means.
I had thought it meant that the horse's nose is tucked in closer to his chest, poll down, rather the poll being highest and the nose being vertical to, or further in front of the forehead? But perhaps it's not that
they're btv but why
they are doing so that's a prob? I can see she was not forcing him. Perhaps therein lies the confusion.
I dont think tail swishing is necessarily an indicator either, some horses have more attitude and opinions
Egs such as that last vid you posted, which I did think that horse looked quite happy doing his thing. But real tail swishing - eg. when youtubing, came across a 'top' guy - Carlos somebody - who's horse was... swishing up a storm! That one seemed an extreme eg of that! I just wonder, that it is acceptable for a horse to have such a strong 'attitude' about the work that's asked of him. But maybe it's ...see below...
when people are learning they think top riders can just fix everything and because they're great the training is perfect.
Yes. I do try hard not to assume stuff, which is why I'm asking, but now you've said it, I do think that probably came into it a bit at least.
I picked on 'headset' though, because it seems to be one of the fundamental 'no-no's' but that most do, including in top comps. The 'mouthing' the bit constantly & foaming also seems only to be a 'thing' with dressage riders. I wonder why the big difference in beliefs there.
I think the most "judgey" people are the ones learning who are trying to figure out what they're seeing without understanding or experiencing. So kudos to you for asking questions, rather than condemning. I respect that.
Yeah well, I do try
to understand different opinions & experiences, rather than judge
. My mother says I've always been trying...