^jaydee I agree. I knew a TB x Perch that literally looked 100%Perch but her brain was 100% TB. Bred for jousting I guess...?? But while being a lovely horse I don't really see the point, she was super sweet but not really beginner safe due to her size and reactivity and had the atheltic ability of a Percheron. She was a pet and her owner loved her, but any sort of competitive future, well any horse can try but I don't think she would have gone far.
I find most hot x cold get the temperament of the hot horse and the body of the cold horse. I've seen a few that DID have a nice WB type build (though heavier then a true WB) but they are by far the minority and quite unlike a true WB. The temperament is an issue too. The nicest one I've known was a HUGE beast, sweet natured but very hot and had learned his strength. I remember leading him in one day when the wind was blowing and I've never been thrown around so much, the funny part is he wasn't even doing too much he was just huge, if he had realized how little control I had there may have been a problem, but I'm good at faking (with horses at least lmao) and he wasn't the brightest. A nice horse, his owner (young and while a good rider had barely any control of him) did cross country with him, and while he had the talent I don't think he would have made it to super high levels simply due to his size and I'd expect he would have soundness issues earlier then a smaller horse. Overall they're a mediocre mix, the nice ones have known have been the exception not the rule and most of them are more like the crazy TB with the 2500 body of a bull lol. It sounds so good on paper, but it just doesn't work, you don't just get half and half and you sure don't get to pick what you do get. I think a similar type is important for the crossbreeding like I said above with Arab x WBs, there are specific goals and because they are of a similar type those goals can be achieved. Two opposites just don't work. I saw an interesting picture awhile back of a bunch of puppies with purebred (crossbreed) parents and we aren't talking Shepherd x Malinois, we are talking like Husky x Corgi or something (I don't remember unfortunately, but- opposites). Every single puppy looked COMPLETELY different and I think some were litter mates too.
Lipizanners and I believe the other baroque types (though to a different extent) are NOT easy horses, and while they have a lot of talent for classical dressage some of that talent can hold you back, especially if you're trying to work on modern dressage for the show ring. I think the biggest problem aside from conformation is getting them to relax enough to do things right, they are so talented they can short cut and wearing them down can take the first half of the lesson, THEN you have a somewhat calm horse you can work with. I have a friend with purebred Lipizzans and she has worked with a trainer who was heavily involved in the Spanish Riding School, it's very interesting to talk to her about her lessons with him, as he is very tuned into both worlds and trying to cross the breeds over. I think a lot of these horses are "second tier" just because they have so much talent, but it's still so different from what is desired. I love to watch the vaquero riding on youtube, it's incredible!
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