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post #11 of 21 Old 05-25-2012, 09:07 PM
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When you take your feet out of the stirrups and let your legs hang, do the stirrup irons hit your ankle bone? That's where your stirrups should be.
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post #12 of 21 Old 05-25-2012, 09:09 PM
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I ride western, so not sure if this helps but my right foot likes to turn out, so I've been working on that by constantly looking down making sure its pointed forwards. I was putting myself in a chair position because I was learning to sink my heals and was pushing down so hard that it was making my leg go forward. So I've been really concentrating on sinking my heels then relaxing my legs as I find my seat bones, staring straight ahead pulling my elbows in. I've been practicing my sitting trot and I'm really starting to get the hang of it. You have to breathe, I mean really concentrate and allow your hips to relax, last year when I trailrode I was jingling all over the place, my feet would bounce out of the stirrups, I was a hot mess I really have noticed since I've started to concentrate on my breathing it allows my body to relax and follow the motion of the horse. I hope I explained this right. My horse gets bouncy when I forget to breathe or I tense up.
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post #13 of 21 Old 05-25-2012, 09:10 PM Thread Starter
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Yes, as far as height, but they are a bit ahead of my leg. I have to bring my leg forward to put my foot in - and then proceed to pull it back to attempt to have them back where they should be in. ;)

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post #14 of 21 Old 05-25-2012, 09:30 PM
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-- I'm one of those weird people that bought my own saddle to use for my lessons. It's helped me a TON. I got a used Crosby PDN for about $300. It was in great condition and it fit 99% of my trainer's horses, which have ranged from lots of OTTBs to QHs and Appys. It puts me in a good position, the stirrups are always the length I leave them on, and my butt's become accustomed to it.

-- It sounds like you're a little burned out on the mare. If that's the case, you absolutely should try to ride something else for a little while. In the past 18 months that I've been riding again, I've gone back and forth between many, many horses. My trainer moves me on to something new when I've mastered a skillset and need something a little more advanced or I start showing signs that I'm not progressing with my current horse.

I rode this monstrous 17'2 OTTB that was big and beautiful and looked like a warmblood. He was nice and sensitive and not really a typical schoolie. And I loved his trot. But he would spook. At anything. And I'd heard stories about his canter and how he had a pretty big buck when he wasn't in the mood for it. And I rode him purely at walk-trot for 6 long, agonizing months. I never once cantered him. And I beat myself up over it, thinking I was just too chicken. My trainer went out and got a new horse -- I cantered him just my second time riding him.

And now that I've got cantering down again, I'd LOVE to go back and try to canter the big guy I was riding before. I just needed a little confidence boosting from a different horse.

As a student, I've learned different horses help you master different skills. And not every horse fits every student. Also, riding different horses will give you a better perspective all around. Both for your riding, as well as the mare you lease.

Horse owners may feel different, but for me, I've really enjoyed riding different horses and getting to know how they all work and feel and act. Bouncy, spooky, lazy, ****y ... fat, skinny ... horses with lots of suspension, VERY sensitive horses, great, big foxhunter jumps, round hunter jumps, dressage horses, western pleasure horses ...

I think I've rode ... 9 or 10 horses in 18 months.
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post #15 of 21 Old 05-25-2012, 10:02 PM Thread Starter
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chandra1313, thanks for the tips! Ya, I'm sure I've braced against the stirrups, and everything else you're not supposed to do as well! lol I rode her a couple of times last week though, sitting trot, no stirrups, and I think I did pretty well considering her trot. Pretty sure there wasn't even much air time. lol Funny thing was she was not her usual springy self, kept her head pretty low, etc, so I'm sure that was a big part of it, made it so much easier. This week though - she's as bouncy as ever and I wouldn't even consider going no stirrups yesterday. I think I was breathing (lol) as she doesn't scare me, but I couldn't even stay in the saddle long enough to feel my seatbones so I'm sure I was somewhat tense! lol I never lose my stirrups but just can't keep from leaning forward and bouncing.

Opus - you're probably right, it's just time to try something different even just for the break from constantly working on the same issues, and maybe she just isn't the right fit/horse for me...though I adore her. I don't have the leaning forward issues or bouncing on the pony or the Canadians, but have just preferred her for the other reasons. A friend I ride with brings her own saddle to lessons too and swears by it. Says the saddles the rest of us ride in are awful, so maybe I will look at that down the road...

Thanks to all of you for sharing your stories and advice!
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post #16 of 21 Old 05-25-2012, 10:55 PM
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Kim,

YOur position is NOT horrible. There are many good points; your hands look soft, you are looking up and your torso looks firm and upright. The mare looks to be happy and you are not impeding her in any way. There are plenty of people who cannot do that much.

The problem is basically, just as you stated; you cannot keep your lower leg back,. thus you are forced to have your upper body too far forward to balance, and it means that you are in a "chair" seat and will purpetually "behind the motion". you will then struggle to be "with" the mare (who is adorable, BTW)

Off hand, the saddle fit does'nt look too bad, but here's a small experiement to try:

Get ( or create) a small wedge to raise the back of the saddle about a half inch (once comppressed, so you'll need to raise it an inch before you sit in it) make sure the wedge is gradual and runs the whole length of the saddle contact area, with no "edges" that are under pressure on her back. See how you post with the back of the saddle lifted a bit. this will change the angle that the stirrup leathers hang at and may help you to not fall behind the motion.

Sit down tall, let your legs hand down out of the stirrups, lift them straight out away from the horse's sides (it's hard on the hips) and then let them fall back to her side. Reach down and grab the back of your thigh and pull it outward so that you kind of rotate the "meat" of your thight outward which results in your knee being closer to the saddle, your feet will then be more parallel to the horse, too , less of the toe out , calf on .
Try riding with the reins in one hand and posting entirely off the balance you have with your self balanced over your thighs and feet, no help from the reins at all.
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post #17 of 21 Old 05-25-2012, 11:27 PM Thread Starter
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You're very sweet, thanks tinyliny. I will see if I can find a wedge. Yes, LOL about the 'meaty' thighs. Very true and good advice. I've done that in the past but always forget. I've lost about 15 pounds since those pictures so hopefully they're not quite so fleshy now, but it's the last place I lose weight it seems so they'll be with me forever.

I thought I'd also post a pic of the pony and see if any of you think I'd look too big on her because I talked to my instructor and she suggested going with the pony for a while to work on some new things. She's only 13.3 though and very narrow, but part Arab and a tough little thing and she actually fits my leg very well surprisingly. That's me, the pony on the left (obviously!), and one of the Canadians on the right.
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post #18 of 21 Old 05-25-2012, 11:37 PM
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first of all, I did not mean to say that YOUR thighs are meaty. I just meant to move the meaty part, that we all have. You are tiny compared to me!

I couldn't say about the pony. I do know that small horses are harder to ride than big ones, in many ways. The margin of error in your balance is much narrower with a small horse. YOu get just a wee bit off balance and you're toast. On a big horse, you have a much wider margin. But, a heck of a harder fall!

I would take some time on the pony, have some fun. Once frustration and self doubt creep in, they have their own way of poisoning the time you spend with horses, and it's just too precious and expensive to have be toxic.
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post #19 of 21 Old 05-26-2012, 04:34 AM
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I think the pony looks fine. My sister has a 13.3 hand horse she is 5'2 and she looks fine on her. I'm 5'4 and I ride her horse as well sometimes. You should go for it.
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post #20 of 21 Old 05-26-2012, 11:04 AM
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Oh, heck. You're tiny, you can ride that pony for as long as you want and you'll look great together.
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