thank you for posting that. so considerate of you.
yes, I do like Warwick Schiller, and that you cannot see the difference between his use of the rein, and that other lady's, is very surprising to me.
Again, Tiny, I just posted a video to show western horses are trained with contact, so no confused when contact is used
I just happened to pick two training videos at random.
You are the one that then googled and found that video, with Dana, using technique that I also do not agree with, same as I don't agree on using backing to teach collection.
We all take from whatever clinician what works for us, what we feel comfortable using.
It is a fact, that people showing in ANY upper level discipline, are going to use some methods that you or I would not use, where we show or just ride
I mean,I don't fence a horse, to help teach a stop, but then again, I am not trying to perfect a sliding stop, teach a horse not to try and 'cheat in the run down
Of course I can see degrees of difference, and you are also comparing someone just training ahorse and people training horses to be competitive at the upper end, in their discipline
Using anything to win, can be another entire topic, and we can go into that also, as I have never injected hocks to push a young horse to the max, have never had tails blocked, have never shown horses on drugs, not even mares on regulmate
I admit to never having show at World level, but like to think, even then I would not be tempted to do something that \everyone does' in order to maximize chance of winning
This topic was on whether a western horse can be ridden with contact, even though he is now ridden on a loose rein, as a more finished horse, without being confused, showing bit Resistance when contact is used, throwing head, and the answer is yes, that horse understands contact , and I for one don't believe anyone can train a horse totally on a loose rein from day one
I posted shiller, as even he gets a horse behind the vertical, head low, training a concept, but that does not mean how that horse is ridden. It is a training method
If we wish to discus trainers, lets put that on the training board, as I believe old Clinton can take a break for the limelight