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post #31 of 48 Old 08-27-2010, 02:37 PM
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Eolith that is one of my coaches favorite activities. and darren it is torture, especially when we go the WHOLE lesson like that. I'm about dead at the end.
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post #32 of 48 Old 08-27-2010, 10:20 PM
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Hmm, I think I should do a little more two pointing myself... my horse and I could probably benefit.

Have you ever done the exercise wherein you stand in two point for two or three strides of trot, sit for one stride and then stand for two or three again? That will really throw you for a loop, but if you can master it, it teaches fantastic balance and timing.

I love this exercise :)

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aww, i feel sorry for all of you that have to do a lot of this exercise! x
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post #34 of 48 Old 08-28-2010, 10:41 AM
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It is a great excercise! The Eventer I work with once a month has us do it at the walk, trot and canter! I have yet to master it, it's a toughie! But she says if you can do it at all 3 gaits, you can jump almost anything.

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post #35 of 48 Old 08-28-2010, 11:23 AM
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Lol we used to call that the "waltzing trot".

A dressage clinician I was riding with the other week had all of the clinicers having trouble with their legs stand with their bums 1" away from the saddle and they were all cursing her, it was priceless, but they sat a lot better after that!

Of course I'm going to take this as on opportunity to post my jumping video that everyone's already seen lol :P But yes, it is important for all riders to be able to ride without stirrups and without a seat! You never know when you will need to employ either skill!

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post #36 of 48 Old 08-28-2010, 12:45 PM
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Thats right. Its the exact same thing.
I have actually learned that there is a difference between jumping position and two-point. It can be the same depending on the height of the jump but there is a difference.
Two point you shoulders are back father and you are getting ready to jump. My instructor has explained that jumping position is when you fold your hips more, as if you are going over a jump and you give a release.
For your purpose two-point is what you want to practice.

Two-point without stirrups is an awesome workout- hard but very useful.
If you want to jump I would highly recommend learning to two-point without stirrups. You never know when you will loose a stirrup at a competition and only be 2 strides from a jump....
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I have actually learned that there is a difference between jumping position and two-point. It can be the same depending on the height of the jump but there is a difference.
Two point you shoulders are back father and you are getting ready to jump. My instructor has explained that jumping position is when you fold your hips more, as if you are going over a jump and you give a release.
For your purpose two-point is what you want to practice.

Two-point without stirrups is an awesome workout- hard but very useful.
If you want to jump I would highly recommend learning to two-point without stirrups. You never know when you will loose a stirrup at a competition and only be 2 strides from a jump....
Interesting. thanks for telling me.
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Nice jumping Anabel
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post #39 of 48 Old 08-28-2010, 11:53 PM
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I have actually learned that there is a difference between jumping position and two-point. It can be the same depending on the height of the jump but there is a difference.
Two point you shoulders are back father and you are getting ready to jump. My instructor has explained that jumping position is when you fold your hips more, as if you are going over a jump and you give a release.
For your purpose two-point is what you want to practice.

Two-point without stirrups is an awesome workout- hard but very useful.
If you want to jump I would highly recommend learning to two-point without stirrups. You never know when you will loose a stirrup at a competition and only be 2 strides from a jump....

I was under the same impression, the two point you use on the flat is different than the two point you use for jumping.

I will have to try the sitting and two-pointing drill when I get back into riding, even though I have been riding for many years, I just in the past year became comfortable really two-pointing at the canter (I am a nervous rider and was always worried about what would happen if my horse tripped). The one I use to hate is when my instructor had me sit two beats of canter then post one then sit two to help slow down my horse's trot.

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post #40 of 48 Old 08-29-2010, 12:11 AM
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Ohhh, that must be torture! Two point without stirrups does NOT sound fun.
My instructor in high school used to do that to me. It was wretched. Lots of trotting and cantering and jumping in 2-pt w/o stirrups. But, it gave me some iron legs, and taught me to use my legs instictively...something that I'm SO grateful for now. When my OTTB spooked over a flock of horse-eating pidgeons he startled yesterday, my legs instantly did what they needed to to keep me ballanced and with the horse. There was not thinking on my end...just reaction (something in hindsight I was proud of b/c my legs are SOOOO out of shape after 10+ years out of the saddle). That's how she taught me to ride...over and over and over and over until it was reflex and instinct so I could focus on what was important. My mind can be otherwise occupied with things liks the course, the jump, my horse...and not with my form. Riding w/o stirrups did this. My body just "knows" what it's supposed to do...and does it (and w/o the muscle strength/tone it used to have this = shorter rides for me as my legs become fatigued easier...but I'm getting there! LOL)
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