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post #1 of 4 Old 10-14-2019, 03:54 AM Thread Starter
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Custom Tall Boots advice

I'm ready to invest in some good boots, my current UK leather ones are 15 years on me, and I bought them used. It's time.
Hoping to get advice on the better brands you would have me consider. My priorities are -
* a great fit, comfortable fit.
* a great feel with the horse, supple ankle, and light inner side(s) to the boots.
* clean toe / cap toe more classic black, dress boots (not dressage, field or hunt)
* price -$900 - $1300
* USA or UK is ok.
* pretty sure zippers are going to be better in long run.

Do you have advice on Dehner, Vogel or Horace Batten UK??
I'm male, older, size 11 mens', nothing too decorative. Classic is best for me.
thanks!
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From what I've seen in catalogs your price range will keep you in custom boots with not many options you may not realize are options.
I had Dehner as a older teen...parents bought them so not sure of cost and it was {cough,cough} several years ago.
They fit, period.

My custom, custom boots are DerDau.
The man, a saddler that I went to actually went to the factory and picked my boot leather stock for them to be made from.. Not sure that is even possible anymore, but was when my boots were made.
I have a very, very long lower leg that not any boot manufacturer makes tall enough to allow for proper drop.
I also have very muscular calves and small, small ankles so a fit from the shelf wasn't happening.
So, my boots are fully lined. I know the lining leather is different than exterior but don't know what or why. That helps them to hold their shape yet not diminish the feel and communication.
Most boots have a cuff lining.
My boots have a punched toe cap...love the look it gave the boots. I'm also a female so may make a difference.
Swagger tab and the cut where the outside is higher than inside of boots. Spanish top..??
Boots had a spur rest applied at a height I wanted.
Field boots, so yes lacing with fine finished lacing holes and because mine are lined, fancier stitching in that area.
Boot pull inside straps as my boots are pull-on and I personally don't want the feel of a zipper on my leg.
My boots, this pair of boots broke in so soft and comfortable. I have had other boots that were painful during break-in.

My words of wisdom...
Invest in a really good pair of full boot trees and use them faithfully.
Mine are 2-piece.....leg and a full foot that snap together.
The difference in what my boots maintained in appearance and longevity for a large investment is apparent.
I think you wanting "custom" boots is going to put you easily over your high-end of $1,300....
Treat your boots when you get them not as play-yard everyday wear around...
I use to work in paddock boots, today in Ariats then change into my tall boots to ride.
I was very careful where I walked and what I put my feet in as urine, manure are very caustic to stitching and boot finish.
Always wipe them off, put the trees in and clean them ASAP after every use.
I had boot rubbers on my boots, put on when I put them on, removed when put away never stored with them on the boot as it ruins the leather!
Treed and in their carrying case...faithfully.
Today my boots are 30+ years old...
They've been resoled a few times as my soles are stitched not glued on...
But the leather tops look as nice as the day they were delivered and tried on the first time.
Taking care of your investment really does allow them to last a long, long time.
No misleading you, I do not and never rode in them daily...
These were a few times a week for lessons, clinics or showing a horse, or showing a sale prospect for a client I rode in them...otherwise, no.
But taking good care of leather products, they can last.
My favorite saddle is 35 years old and in fantastic condition...rode in everyday of its existence I got astride a horse...a lot of use!
...
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From what I've seen in catalogs your price range will keep you in custom boots with not many options you may not realize are options.
I had Dehner as a older teen...parents bought them so not sure of cost and it was {cough,cough} several years ago.
They fit, period.

My custom, custom boots are DerDau.
The man, a saddler that I went to actually went to the factory and picked my boot leather stock for them to be made from.. Not sure that is even possible anymore, but was when my boots were made.
I have a very, very long lower leg that not any boot manufacturer makes tall enough to allow for proper drop.
I also have very muscular calves and small, small ankles so a fit from the shelf wasn't happening.
So, my boots are fully lined. I know the lining leather is different than exterior but don't know what or why. That helps them to hold their shape yet not diminish the feel and communication.
Most boots have a cuff lining.
My boots have a punched toe cap...love the look it gave the boots. I'm also a female so may make a difference.
Swagger tab and the cut where the outside is higher than inside of boots. Spanish top..??
Boots had a spur rest applied at a height I wanted.
Field boots, so yes lacing with fine finished lacing holes and because mine are lined, fancier stitching in that area.
Boot pull inside straps as my boots are pull-on and I personally don't want the feel of a zipper on my leg.
My boots, this pair of boots broke in so soft and comfortable. I have had other boots that were painful during break-in.

My words of wisdom...
Invest in a really good pair of full boot trees and use them faithfully.
Mine are 2-piece.....leg and a full foot that snap together.
The difference in what my boots maintained in appearance and longevity for a large investment is apparent.
I think you wanting "custom" boots is going to put you easily over your high-end of $1,300....
Treat your boots when you get them not as play-yard everyday wear around...
I use to work in paddock boots, today in Ariats then change into my tall boots to ride.
I was very careful where I walked and what I put my feet in as urine, manure are very caustic to stitching and boot finish.
Always wipe them off, put the trees in and clean them ASAP after every use.
I had boot rubbers on my boots, put on when I put them on, removed when put away never stored with them on the boot as it ruins the leather!
Treed and in their carrying case...faithfully.
Today my boots are 30+ years old...
They've been resoled a few times as my soles are stitched not glued on...
But the leather tops look as nice as the day they were delivered and tried on the first time.
Taking care of your investment really does allow them to last a long, long time.
No misleading you, I do not and never rode in them daily...
These were a few times a week for lessons, clinics or showing a horse, or showing a sale prospect for a client I rode in them...otherwise, no.
But taking good care of leather products, they can last.
My favorite saddle is 35 years old and in fantastic condition...rode in everyday of its existence I got astride a horse...a lot of use!
...
This is great advice, thanks very much. I think I am, like you, careful to take care of fine things rather well, and keep them a long time. I will not be a 4x week rider, really 2x a week for the most part, probably sometimes 1x a week.
Yes, was indeed planning on the tall wood boot trees, I think it was Horace Batten in the UK that makes the trees custom to your boots too.
I also have paddock boots, that I would wear around, maybe doing some grooming, or hanging around the barn. I have some less expensive paddock boots for washing, cleaning stalls, etc. But my custom boots? Yes, like you - cleaned and put away each time, and only used for riding.

Anyone have advice on the classic leather soles, or the newer rubber tread being used on some (stock?) brands. Was told the rubber keeps you attached to the stirrup better.

thanks again for your great reply.
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I'm ready to invest in some good boots, my current UK leather ones are 15 years on me, and I bought them used. It's time.
Hoping to get advice on the better brands you would have me consider. My priorities are -
* a great fit, comfortable fit.
* a great feel with the horse, supple ankle, and light inner side(s) to the boots.
* clean toe / cap toe more classic black, dress boots (not dressage, field or hunt)
* price -$900 - $1300
* USA or UK is ok.
* pretty sure zippers are going to be better in long run.

Do you have advice on Dehner, Vogel or Horace Batten UK??
I'm male, older, size 11 mens', nothing too decorative. Classic is best for me.
thanks!
Dehner. Thousands and thousands of horseback riders and motorcycle cops can't all be wrong. Loved mine, wore them for many years until I just wore them out and also outgrew them.

Just saw your question about the leather soles. Leather 100% and would cheerfully pay extra to get it.
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