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post #81 of 109 Old 11-08-2011, 11:40 PM
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I think we are all aware that sometimes "stuff happens" but it doesn't hurt to investigate each case a little to see if there are some similarities. There could be some underline thing that all these cases have in common but we're not seeing it because it doesn't happen frequently enough.
It can't hurt, especially if it turns out to be something preventable.
We can chose to learn from each experience or we can chose to ignore it.
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Interesting. And I'm glad to hear that research is being done into exercise related arrhythmias in racehorses.

But racehorses to showhorses is not exactly an apples to apples comparision. Racehorses are in an aerobic state for most of a race, and their peak workout is both longer and more intense than show jumpers. Also, the strain on a racehorse is primarily cardiovascular and skeletal; show jumpers use more slow twitch muscle to perform their jobs. A fit jumper going around a standard indoor stadium course (Usually less than a minute in duration; longer in at outdoor stadium or derby cours) may not show *any* shortness of breath or sweating, and his heart rate may only rise slightly, but he will have expended incredible muscle energy.

If I were to make a guess, even a wildass guess, I would say that what happened to Hickstead was a massive heart attack, but that it was related to some sort of underlying defect and was not a exercise induced arrhythmia, because I doubt he raised his heart rate to the point that it would induce arhyhtmia.. Just my guess, but at this point, before the results of the necropsy are released, my guess is as good as anyone else's.
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This is an interesting quote I found

The horse is a natural blood doper,” director of the Equine Science Center at Rutgers University in New Jersey, Karyn Malinowski, told the New York Times. “When the horse does an athletic event, it will automatically dump tons of red blood cells into the bloodstream,” she said. “It’s what makes the horse a fabulous athlete. And at the same time, because you have an increase, the blood does become thicker, and if the horse was prone to a weakened heart, it could have burst.”

Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's Marketplace co-anchor Tom Harrington repo
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Well... Thicker blood may lead to stroke anyway - whether the heart is weakened or not. I wonder though if those horses get blood thinner (like aspirin). My guess would be heart attack too, but it very well may be triple A as well (that one has basically no chance to survive).




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post #85 of 109 Old 11-09-2011, 11:36 AM
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Eric Lamaze just held a press conference in Toronto this am, and has said Hickstead died of an Acute Aortic Rupture. He said his previous days jumping were very normal, he was in excellent health and in fact even his final jump was performed with nothing out of the normal. He was vetted a minimum of 3 times weekly even when he was not being shown so he had the best care possible.
He also said he is not at the Royal to compete, but to honour Hickstead. Eric believes Hickstead will be considered the best horse in history, and in the world.
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Eric Lamaze just held a press conference in Toronto this am, and has said Hickstead died of an Acute Aortic Rupture. He said his previous days jumping were very normal, he was in excellent health and in fact even his final jump was performed with nothing out of the normal. He was vetted a minimum of 3 times weekly even when he was not being shown so he had the best care possible.
He also said he is not at the Royal to compete, but to honour Hickstead. Eric believes Hickstead will be considered the best horse in history, and in the world.
The CBC reported that he's thinking of retiring?! :(

Emotional Lamaze mulling retirement in wake of horse's death

He can't retire! Look at Ian Miller, up there in his 60's still competing... would be a huge, huge blow to Canadian Show Jumping for Lamaze to retire.
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From watching the video you can tell its not a heart attack, the trainer at the barn I board at and I were talking about it yesterday and we thought it would have had to have been a massive bleed or rupture because of how prolonged the "attack" was.
Nice to know the vet doing the autopsy concluded it was a non predictable event.

Of course Eric is considering retirement, that man has been through so much in his life. Ten times the hardship as Ian millar. He knows that the likelihood of ever having half the horse as Hickstead is nil. Hickstead was his once in a lifetime horse, the horse that pulled him out from addiction and the gutters of the sport. Without that horse he still wouldn't be allowed on half the show grounds in na, including spruce. I would consider retirement as well. He's worked his butt off for everything he's ever gotten, with very few favours, watches others get horses handed to them that they don't even train on a daily basis and go to the shows and win because they have money. He finally was getting the recognition he deserves for his riding and his once in a lifetime horse dies horifically... I'm amazed the guy is still sober!! What a strong man to be taking this basically in stride and if he wants to retire I'm 100% behind him. He owes absolutely nothing to Canadian show jumping as they have done extremely little to support him compared ro other athletes except when he had Hickstead and was doing well.
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Not to mention that he could write a book about his life and give clinics and lessons and make as much money as he does now.

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I just looked at the video, and had to turn it off.. it completely turned my stomach.. I can't begin to imagine what Eric Lamaze is going through, he lost his one horse, the one, his partner.

No matter what he decides to do, he will be known world wide in clinics, jumping, and as a sportsman. I'm in so much shock I can barely even think about it, poor, poor man.
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I mentioned this in another thread, but Lamaze is showing tonight at The Royal (20:00 EST) and you can watch free from anywhere in the world:

Royal Agricultural Winter Fair 2011 Free Access

Schedule of events:

http://royalfair.org/files/rawf_time...20-11_11_0.pdf
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