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post #1 of 10 Old 07-13-2020, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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HELP! Horse won't move, planting feet

I'm currently leasing a horse that is a 20-ish year old mare, with a previously impressive jumping career. She's not so nice on the ground, so her in-saddle behavior doesn't surprise me much. Once I mount, she'll walk around while I do stirrups, plant herself somewhere, and REFUSE to move. I can sometimes get her to walk a circle, and that's about it. She'll literally stand there and absolutely refuse to take a single step, maybe take a half lap, but that's it, let alone trot. It's so frustrating, because I am usually there alone, and as a walk/trot/canter/jump rider, she's making the ride and money not worth it for me. Saddle and overall health has been cleared by her owner, but I'm generally there alone and can't have someone stand there/chase her with a crop. Hope there's some answer out there, unless she's just the most stubborn horse ever. TIA
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post #2 of 10 Old 07-13-2020, 12:37 PM
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How does she work from the ground? You say not so nice but have you spent time on the ground working her to get her focused on you and our expectations? It sounds like she has your number and has decided that she isn't going to bother. Not standing for mounting. Walking off...



Alternately, just because the owner cleared the saddle doesn't mean there isn't a fit issue.



Did you ride this horse prior to arranging the lease and she did fine?
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If I work with her on a lead line, she does move nicely, and always walks on a lead line no problem. She is aggressive when I go to catch her and often tries to kick me. She'll stand for mounting but then walk to the center and refuse to move. I rode her once before going through with everything, but her owner was there with me. I definitely think I'll check in with the owner or ask her to meet me there to see how she acts. I just find it so frustrating when I'm sitting there, trying everything from a crop to loose reins and gentle squeezing to circling, to no avail.
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Does she kick at her owner, too? The kicking is the first thing I would address, just a matter of time before some one gets seriously hurt.
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I've seen her kick at others, not sure about her owner. The owner does take a million treats and has to really coax her into behaving though, if she does go catch her for me.
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I've seen her kick at others, not sure about her owner. The owner does take a million treats and has to really coax her into behaving though, if she does go catch her for me.
The real question... Why are you leasing this horse? I certainly wouldn't pay to ride and handle a constant headache... Are there not other lease options in your area? Or a barn you can take lessons with instead, or even lease a horse?

I will never pay to handle and ride a bratty mare. Why would I pay the owner to fix the horse?

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I know, it's counterproductive. This situation is super discounted and I do some barn work in exchange, and I'm a college student entirely on my own finances, so spending $160 a week on lessons isn't so doable for me. There's not too many options in my area, most are at least an hour or so away. Hopefully I can find a solution before college in the fall.
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I know, it's counterproductive. This situation is super discounted and I do some barn work in exchange, and I'm a college student entirely on my own finances, so spending $160 a week on lessons isn't so doable for me. There's not too many options in my area, most are at least an hour or so away. Hopefully I can find a solution before college in the fall.

Something I did in college (zero lesson barns near my school, no lease options anywhere) was find a local group on Facebook and just put it out that I was missing riding, and was wondering if anyone needed help working their horses. A woman who had a private barn with over 15 horses responded, and I rode a handful of her horses regularly. Over the years, she regularly let college students come out that were missing riding.
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I second finding somewhere else or a different situation. Facebook groups is a good option but there are others out there who might need their horses exercised.

I can't justify spending money on a horse with bad, dangerous ground manners, and one that has learned to avoid working with you in the saddle. You'll learn nothing from that, and that owner needs to train her horse! Find a different opportunity.

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Sounds like the mare has people taped good and true!

The one thing you do not state is what standard and riding experience you have had prior to this.

A couple of things make me think you are not very experienced
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First that you allow the mare to threaten and kick out at you when you go to catch her instead of disciplining her for her dangerous ill manners.

Second you allow her to wander around whilst you are doing your stirrups. If you alter your stirrups correctly, foot in the iron and using only one hand to alter each leather,you have both reins in the other hand so can stop her from wandering.

Third thing is that YOU are the one who should be carrying the whip and know how to use it behind your leg of make this stubborn mare realise you are boss.
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