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post #11 of 87 Old 01-18-2012, 12:13 AM
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The second picture posted here shows incorrect dressage riding also but in a different area.
Not round/supple in the back? Do tell! Always willing to learn!

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Not round/supple in the back? Do tell! Always willing to learn!

Look at the leg positioning.

Now tell me what you see.
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I am a western rider trying to learn dressage, and she looks like shes sitting hunched down on in a "cowboy" seat.
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oh, and toes up heels down!
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There are no manuevers in dressage that are performed in rolkuer. It is only used (by the few that do use it) during warm up and training, never in a performance or test.
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oh, and toes up heels down!
She means look at the horse's legs, I think.
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oh well, trying to learn, i am sooooootired of chasing cows and cans, I used to do HUS well as a teenager, but I am trying to learn 1st level with my cowhorse......We will be the funniest pair at the dressage barn.........
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Well they seem to be moving diagonally.. but the front inside is very extended and the right hind isn't further up.. therefore he's not using his hind power.. meaning he's on the forehand?

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oh well, trying to learn, i am sooooootired of chasing cows and cans, I used to do HUS well as a teenager, but I am trying to learn 1st level with my cowhorse......We will be the funniest pair at the dressage barn.........
How could you be tired of chasing cows??

But awesome that you're learning something new! I personally love dressage thus far :) Good luck!
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Well they seem to be moving diagonally.. but the front inside is very extended and the right hind isn't further up.. therefore he's not using his hind power.. meaning he's on the forehand?

Bingo..2 1/2 out of three stars.

The angle of the rear and front should be the same.

Either this horse does toes flicks ( frowned upon) and the camera caught it at the end of the flick or this horse over extends the front naturally ( or through improper training). This is also not correct. The rule book describes a correct extension is one where the front leg will not be placed down in front of the vertical of the horse's head.

If they go beyond then the horse does not gain ground...which means that during the extension the power from the hind leg engages more forward under the horse from step to step and THAT is what lightens the front end.
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Bingo..2 1/2 out of three stars.

The angle of the rear and front should be the same.

Either this horse does toes flicks ( frowned upon) and the camera caught it at the end of the flick or this horse over extends the front naturally ( or through improper training). This is also not correct. The rule book describes a correct extension is one where the front leg will not be placed down in front of the vertical of the horse's head.

If they go beyond then the horse does not gain ground...which means that during the extension the power from the hind leg engages more forward under the horse from step to step and THAT is what lightens the front end.

Oh wow I got it right! I didn't know the angles had to be the same.. that makes a lot of sense.

What do you mean by toe flicks? Like what a horse does when they wear bell boots? I thought that was extending... teehe now I feel silly.

Oh well, now I know better. Thanks Spyder :)

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