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View Poll Results: Spurs or Crop?
Crop 28 63.64%
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post #21 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 01:21 AM Thread Starter
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I have never used spurs, I never need them. On a horse I ride in lessons I ALWAYS use a crop. He likes to be wiggly, cut corners, and he is a "pokey pony", no doubt. I use the crop for corrections, and when he slows down 'll give him a good slap.

With spurs I would be afraid of tearing the poor creature's sides open .. What if I kick to hard? I might rip their flesh open! Lol.
haha, yeah I'm always scared of that happening with the spikey western ones. I like the ballpoint english spurs. nice and round and don't have as much potential to hurt him.
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post #22 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 01:25 AM Thread Starter
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ecactly what i was going to say.

im never without my spurs, just because i have them on doesnt mean im using them.
yes I'm too lazy to take my spurs off, so if I'm riding a TB or some hot blooded horse, I just push my spurs so that they're pointing downwards.
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post #23 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 02:34 AM
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I use ladies campdraft spurs - plain stainless steel with a swan neck and a rowel like this:



I HATE dummy spurs/fixed end spurs and so does my horse. Blunt, fixed end spurs jab into the side of the horse and can cause extensive bruising.

A rowelled spur, when used properly, is rolled up the horses side and not jabbed inward.

Sharp spurs or spurs being used improperly can cause cuts, but I stress, that is not how they are meant to be used.

If I put blunt, fixed end spurs on Bundy, he tries to buck every time I use them. he is happy as larry with my rowel spurs.

Plus, the swan neck means I don't have to change the position of my foot to engage them.

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post #24 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 02:43 AM
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Spurs were not intended to create forward so i don't use them for that.
I agree.
When my horse is having a lazy day, I'll use my dressage whip to wake her up if she doesn't respond snappily enough to my seat/leg aids. I always ride with a whip, although I only use it if needed.

I use spurs on her to get more of that "jump" from her hind end. It creates the upwards impulsion or reinforces a lateral movement. Whereas the whip just asks for more forward.

Example: I might use spurs to help maintain a good bend while doing a shoulder-in. I might also use spurs when doing a collected canter to ask my horse to keep the power from her hind legs jumping up beneath her. However, if I want more from an extended trot, I'll use my whip. Or if I ask her to go from a halt to a trot and she doesn't respond quickly enough, I'll taptap with the whip.

On the off side, I ride two formerly lazy horses and don't have a whip available where I ride them. They started off dead to leg aids and super lazy, but after a couple rides they now respond to the slightest touch. So you don't always need an artifical aid. ;)

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post #25 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 02:50 AM
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Hmmm - Examples of when I use my spurs...

Mostly for lateral work and turns, and also to enable my aids for things like canter depart to become minute.

I can ask for either canter lead from a walk by just shifting my hip bone, dropping my outside leg, and moving my spur a whisker closer to his side. Up he bounces into canter.

I can move his shoulders, his rib cage, and his hind end with a tiny movement of my heel so my spur contacts.

When i'm doing a haunch turn (a 180 at a gallop) again all I have to do is drop my hip, bring my outside leg back, and open one rein slightly and close the other.

A rollback is similar.

When I have my spurs on, he becomes light as a feather - he is tuned in to the muscles in my legs tensing - I actually hardly have to touch him with my spur. It gives him 'incentive' to move off my leg.

Without the spurs, he will still do the manouvers, but he is sluggish and I need to contact him with my whole heel to get the response.

We also have some isues with losing momentum through turns - For this I use a soft cotton braid (A giddy up rope/wip wop) and once the turn is finished, I swing it around onto his butt. If I tried to urge him forward with the spur, he would jack up and get ****y, which does not look fluid.

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post #26 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 05:26 AM
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ive never used spus, i always carry a crop in my boot when i out riding, i rarely use it though, only if the horse is misbehaving and needs an extra push to move it forward
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post #27 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 05:43 AM
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i prefer spurs but only if you dont have to kick/squeeze the crap out of the horse... ' i will only use spurs sensabily ' ... unless im in a dangerous situation then i will.

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post #28 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 08:14 AM
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My horse is propelled by jet fuel so spurs are a definite no-no. I'd imagine I could get a good steady strong canter on him with no shoes on, to be honest.
I don't use a whip for the most part. I carry a whip with a short lash on the flat so I can flick it to tuck in his hindquarters. I carry a whip jumping in my lessons because my instructor likes us too, and of course I carry a whip cross country because its a good idea. But in the seven years I've had my gelding, and six and a half eventing/competing jumper with him.. He's stopped a grand total of once.

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post #29 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 03:27 PM
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I very rarely ride without my crop :) Right now it's kind of even a bit of a comfort thing for me...I'll go weeks on end without using it. BUT...there are times when it comes in handy and I'm always thankful to have it (aka...when Brooke decides to be a little snot, or when she tries to refuse a jump). Apparently, I am one of the only riders who do NOT ride Brooke with spurs (probably cause my legs are actually long enough for her barrel), but I have used spurs before (very blunt ones) on other horses. Right now I have hardly any muscle in my leg so I wouldn't trust myself with spurs.

I think both tools have their place, it just all depends on the rider, the situation and the horse.

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post #30 of 45 Old 05-05-2010, 04:29 PM
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Crop. Definately crop

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