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post #1 of 20 Old 07-13-2016, 06:46 PM Thread Starter
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Goat died from dewormer?

So I have two of my friends goats, she breeds them...I borrowed two that were too young to breed to fatten them up. I've had them mm maybe 6 weeks now? I messaged her last night because I noticed one had a big lump under her chin and she was a bit lethargic. So she brought Panacur dewormer and this redcell vitamin mixture stuff and gave it to both goats. Then asked if I had any grain or something that we could give the lethargic one. My horses dont get grain but I remembered I had my bran mash mix. I told her the ingredients and she said it sounded fine. So I mixed it up for them, they dove right in!

Then Goat B (not sick before goat) starts acting all goofy, like shes having a siezure. She comes out of it...kind of...it was like she still had vertigo though, her world was just spinning. We moved her to shade, and tried to help her relax, then forced some water in her. We stayed with her about 30 minutes then went to go bathe friends dog (goats owner). Came back out hour later to check on her, she seemed better but still loopy. Goat A, that was initially sick...seemed fine.

So we went riding..got back and Goat A still seemed fine, Goat B was up and about but still loopy.

Friend went home.

Few hours later I came out to check on them and feed horses. Goat A was dead. Goat B is still loopy but not dead.

I can't get a hold of their mom, I moved and covered the body but not sure what to do really. I'm just SHOCKED the goat that DIDN'T have the bad reaction is now dead.

Anyone have goats have bad reactions before? I'm googling it but not seeing much.
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Panacur is one of the safest dewormers. Overdose is difficult, but if they had a damaged liver to begin with it is possible. I would be thinking there was a reason the goats weren't doing well before hand and stress exacerbated their symptoms. I would recommend a necropsy, if the body is still available.
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Yes I have the body still. Waiting to hear back from her mom still :( I didn't want to bury her and then she want the body.
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Your vet can recommend who to send the body to and what costs would be. I am not sure about giving red cell to goats, but the fact that one was lethargic even before you started would have had red flags up for me. Goats tend to be very stoic and hide illness as long as they possibly can.
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I have sheep & a sheep vet told me that dewormers & most other meds are given by injection due to them being ruminants. Maybe goats are the same?
Goats can get some disease that causes lumps.
There is a forum called BackYard Herds that you may find helpful.
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Luckily goats mom was not too upset. She said it just happens sometimes and very fast. I told her last night about something being possibly wrong (really didn't see any symptoms till then) so she brought meds today. May of just been too late.

Now for Goat B, that WASN'T sick before hand but then had the episode after the dewormer? We're still not sure whats going on there. I've been checking on her a lot and each time she looks to be moving around better.

My friend was mean and said she'd bring another one over, this one she believes to have cancer so isn't used for her breeding program...is just a lawn mower goat...she said if I kill it no big deal :( LOL so mean. She just told me to bury/dispose of the body, she wasn't interested in paying for tests.
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Sounds like a horrible "breeder!"

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Nothing drops dead for no reason and for a so called breeder to not give a darn when an animal suddenly dies is just terrible.

If you care enough, get a vet to figure it out on your own.

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You shouldn't take the cancer goat. You've seen enough grief for a while.
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Sounds like a horrible "breeder!"

=/

Nothing drops dead for no reason and for a so called breeder to not give a darn when an animal suddenly dies is just terrible.

If you care enough, get a vet to figure it out on your own.
We're pretty sure it was Barber Pole Worms at this point. I just didn't see/know the warning signs fast enough. I've never had goats before :( She said sometimes they just go very fast. She does care but understands sometimes it happens and said next time she'll tell me what to do then rather then wait till the morning when she can come over. I promise shes not a horrible breeder she just doesn't feel the need to look further into it after we've done more research. Its more so I was a terrible goat watcher for not seeing the signs before it was too late.
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Does your bran mash mix contain a vitamin/mineral supplement for horses?

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