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How are my TWH's bloodlines?

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Hi I am familiar with thoroughbred and quarter horse blood lines but I know very little about Tennessee walking bloodlines. Can you tell me if my walker has good lines? If you had to buy a horse based only on bloodlines would you buy him? Also if you know any dispositions that are common in his parents that would be great. Thanks, here is his pedigree.
Jacksons Gone Country Tennessee Walking Horse
 
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1. I'm not a breeder nor do I show. I was always strictly a trail rider. That means I would never buy a horse based on its papers. I like to have the papers for conversation and research but I look at the horse and try to assess how it will perform the intended job.

2. Based on these papers, I hope you don't plan on using this horse for breeding stock. There's a great-grandparent (Cutlass Supreme) that is pure Standardbred. The progeny can never be more than 7/8ths TWH, therefore not eligible for registry with TWHBEA.

If this horse is registered thru TWHBEA, I would like to know how that happened as they do not allow part-breeds into the registry.

If this horse is registered in NWHA or that International Walking Horse Association, they are newer registries. I'm pretty sure NWHA was formed in direct opposition to TWHBEA.

3. That all said, for the sake of the horse, I hope you are not a person who bases your ownership of this horse solely on its papers. This is your first post and frankly your questions come across that way:)
 
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Hi, nope I'm just a trail rider as well. I bought him almost three years ago. He has been the best horse I could have asked for since. I bought him as a 9 year old green broke gelding who only accepted the saddle but wouldn't allow any riders. Now he goes English and western. I also own four graded horses, and he is the only one with papers. I just thought it would be interesting to know about his bloodlines. He definitely isn't going anywhere. I didn't mean to come across as the only thing I cared about is bloodlines, however I posted a similar question on yahoo answers (which I frequent a lot) and I didn't receive any responses.
 
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REALLY!?!? Someone must have been sleeping when they processed the papers. I can't remember when they closed the books, but it was long before Cutlass Supreme's time, lollol

I am,not familiar with the close up names on his papers but I see he goes back to Marshall Dillon on his top side. Is he spotted? I only heard good things about Marshall Dillon.

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It's great to know you have given Jackson a great home:)

However, we love pictures ------- where are the pictures. Lollol
 
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Haha yup he is a tobiano. As you can tell, he had trouble figurung out how high to pick his feet up over jumps, and how uncollected he was when ridden. I have taught him to be more collected and have jumped him up to 3'. I am on my computer which doesnt have recent photos but the ones he looks better in are within the last year. I do not do any shows with him, I just trail ride and jump things. :)
 

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Jackson sure is a handsome fella:).

I'm on the IPad --- he looks like he has a blue eye:). are both eyes blue?

I would be willing to bet someone snuck Cutlass Supreme-the-Standarbred into the mix to try for a faster speed racker. Even though Cutlass was a great-grandma, that could be why Jackson was only green broke at nine ----- he was culled from the main herd after they realized he wasn't going to be as fast as they wanted ---- whomever "they" may have been, and he literally sat in a back pasture for years. that is not a common thing to do but nonetheless, I have read of confiscated herds "in the back forty" that were neglected, or the owner died.

That's purely supposition on my part and could mean nothing, lollol. Mthe most important thing is Jackson being in a caring home and wonder-of wonders you managed to get his papers:)

Walking Horses in general are very good natured and more forgiving of human error than many other breeds.

I'm not up-to-speed on the Walking Horses in the last ten years but the Generator line was bred for the show ring. The older models could sometimes have a snarky disposition and even more often a club hoof that had been passed down by Prides Generator.

Some in the Pusher line will. To tolerate abuse which gets them into trouble with impatient moron trainers.

I lost my Pusher horse in a freak pasture accident.

My Generator guy is now 23 and his ornery self has been with me since he was 2-1/2.

My 22 year old TWH is pleasure bred and has the sweetest disposition and kind heart. He is a favorite at the vet clinic where he goes to get his orthopedic shoes re-set every five weeks:). NFrom that perspective he would have been a great stallion ---- his sickle hocks and insulin resistance are a good thing he was gelded early on:). He's been in my barn 11 years.

Welcome to the forum! Hope to hear of yours and Jacksons adventures often --- even if you don't leave your property:).
 
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Thank you. :) only his right eye is blue, the other one is brown. That would make sense as to why he has saddlebred in him because he is the fastest horse I've ridden. When we line up to race he out runs three of the four ottbs we run against. If we have a long race then he manages to slightly pull ahead at the end. My hunch was they quickly taught him to accept the saddle so that they got more money from him. I'll be sure to post on here about Jackson and my upcoming xc shooling. You should see the looks I get when I show up with a Gaited horse. Lol
 
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I have alot to do to get you a complete pedigree but for now you have at least 8 World Grand Champions in your horses pedigree. The horse Oil Stock was a World Grand Champion Racking Horse. The Racking Horse Celebration is held in Alabama. Keep in mind as a friend in the industry told me many years ago--practically all racking and spotted saddle horses are walking horses that "don't walk". If you shoe the horse a certain way, it will rack. Shoe it differently, it will "walk". Need a farrier who is really familiar with Tennessee Walking Horses and knows how to shoe them to get the gait that is desired. The other World Grand Champions are: The Super Stock, Threat's Supreme A., Sun's Delight D., Triple Threat, Ebony Masterpiece, Midnight Sun, Merry Go Boy. The Tennessee Walking Horse National Celebration is held in Shelbyville, TN. You have some good horses in the pedigree. The Tennessee Walking Horse Breeders and Owners Association has many programs for your horse to show in, including jumping. These horses can do more than just look pretty in a show ring.
 
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