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post #1 of 9 Old 07-15-2020, 09:21 AM Thread Starter
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Back to school plans

I'm just curious what everyones back to school plans are looking like and how the kids and parents feel like it's going to effect their learning. (athletics and social situations are obviously very effected).

This is what our High school looks like as of yesterday:

County Supervisor Vote:
Approved-Masks: following CDC guidelines they’ll have to be worn on buses, in hallways, restrooms, and communal spaces but are not needed sitting in class if students are 6’ apart. Still need to define communal areas.

Approved-Plan A: (They will be broken in 2 groups. Group A and B. Each group will go to school 2 days a week and virtual 3 days per week)

School year will start on 8/31 and run through 6/16, with graduation on 6/12.
High School start:
Week 1: virtual for everyone
Week 2: hybrid will go in for one day; either Wed or Thurs based on your group
Week 3: regular hybrid schedule kicks in

I'm not sure how comfortable I am with it. The second half of last year was virtual and my son had all As and Bs save for one C+ in Criminal Justice. It was a LOT of work for me to ride his tail to ensure he completed all of his work. I mean A LOT of work for me. He did the work but I had to check and scream and yell and grumble and threaten. I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the online learning...

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I'm not sure how comfortable I am with it. The second half of last year was virtual and my son had all As and Bs save for one C+ in Criminal Justice. It was a LOT of work for me to ride his tail to ensure he completed all of his work. I mean A LOT of work for me. He did the work but I had to check and scream and yell and grumble and threaten. I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the online learning...
Unfortunately online learning is a reality if has any interest of going onto college. I was surprised how much homework is done online when I entered college - math, chemistry, writing...Everything was online. Maybe 1 class a year we would turn in paper assignments. I almost wish that in high school I was introduced to online courses, just so I would be forced to pull up my britches and actually do the work.

Something my Dad always said to me, "it's better to struggle in high school before it really counts". The amount of money I wasted in college due to my laziness and honestly, lack of knowing how to learn on my own, would have been saved by being introduced to even just one online course in high school.

But to your original prompt - from the middle school science teacher I know, she is preparing online lesson plans for this coming fall. I'm not sure if they are considering hybrid learning or not, but I know they are preparing all of their material to be able to be used 100% online, just in case.

As for my past middle school choir teacher, he has admitted that there is pretty much zero way that he can run a socially-distanced choir class. Each grade level commonly has 50+ kids in it, and the way his room used to be set up, it was chairs on a half-circle tiered-floor room, pretty much right next to each other around the whole room. From how I remember him, I know he is absolutely heartbroken over what is probably to come for his classes. Hopefully some work around can be found if schools do open back up, but there are only so many larger rooms in the school I went to.

From a poll I seen on NextDoor (a neighborhood app), it seems like most parents in my area want distance learning, or a hybrid situation like you described.

I can't myself, say what is right or wrong. Learning is important, saving lives is important, parents being able to go to work is important, teachers lives are important...I don't think anyone has a 'right' answer to the question of schooling. I just hope that there is an end in sight.

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His classwork has always been online. It's the online instruction that is the problem for me. He does better with an actual person than watching a video.

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I no longer have a child in k-12 but my daughter is preparing to go back to college in 3 weeks. Her college like many high schools and grade schools is going the hybrid .
route. She works at the school as a residence assistant As mentioned above whether the parents or child like it - college life even before COVID-19 is a lot of on-line learning. A lot of classes are completely on-line and some were hybrid. This is a good start for those in High School with plans to go to college. The student has no choice in college - if they need a class for their major and it is offered on-line only - then that is the only option.

I feel sorry for the really young children - e-learning is harder for those under 11 or 12.

We are very worried about our daughter's return to school. It is over 6 hours away with many students coming from hot spot cities in our state. If our daughter gets ill she will not only be far away but by herself is something happens.

We (like most parents) are trying to make the best of it - this type of learning may be around for awhile.
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Our district said a few weeks ago that everyone would have a choice, to either go to school full time or learn from home full time. We had decided that our daughter would stay home. She was pretty ambivalent about it (she'd miss her friends but liked the lower pressure of in-home learning). Then I started reading articles about how teachers felt about going back to school, and how so many of them were afraid. I'm sorry to think I hadn't really thought about it from that angle. So we decided she'd be at home full time. That plus we were skeptical that in-person learning would go very well, with such a high rate of infection (one person gets sick and they all have to stay home anyway).

We just heard yesterday that the school district changed to be exclusively at-home for the first three weeks. Apparently the governor is really antsy on getting kids back into schools physically, but he is somewhat capable of understanding facts, so he gave school districts the option to do the first three weeks at home. Thinking is that this will get extended, but who knows.

Our district was pretty good about setting kids up for online learning. They brought laptops to every child in the district who needed one (and even those who didn't), and gave out free wifi hotspots. They also used school buses to run hotspots in apartment complexes where there were a lot of kids. And of course they gave out meals as well.

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Our district said a few weeks ago that everyone would have a choice, to either go to school full time or learn from home full time. We had decided that our daughter would stay home. She was pretty ambivalent about it (she'd miss her friends but liked the lower pressure of in-home learning). Then I started reading articles about how teachers felt about going back to school, and how so many of them were afraid. I'm sorry to think I hadn't really thought about it from that angle. So we decided she'd be at home full time. That plus we were skeptical that in-person learning would go very well, with such a high rate of infection (one person gets sick and they all have to stay home anyway).

We just heard yesterday that the school district changed to be exclusively at-home for the first three weeks. Apparently the governor is really antsy on getting kids back into schools physically, but he is somewhat capable of understanding facts, so he gave school districts the option to do the first three weeks at home. Thinking is that this will get extended, but who knows.

Our district was pretty good about setting kids up for online learning. They brought laptops to every child in the district who needed one (and even those who didn't), and gave out free wifi hotspots. They also used school buses to run hotspots in apartment complexes where there were a lot of kids. And of course they gave out meals as well.
It sounds like your school district is being absolutely awesome! The big issue with my brother and sister is the fact that our house is pretty rural, and only has a basic internet line ran down our road. Supposedly my parents could not even connect to one of the distance learning websites, and if my siblings stay home this fall, they will be going to my mom's workplace a few days a week to use their internet.

I feel so bad for teachers being put in this position...You know that their livelihoods is teaching these kids, but imagining them losing students (and then of course classmates experiencing the grief that comes with a peer dying/being very ill) is very eye-opening, and sad.

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Our kids have a choice between homeschool and going back. I think the price to the county for the homeschool is about 1200 per kid so I'm not sure if that's going to end up costing them more or the same as far as in school or out of school. They originally said you had to make your decision and stick with it. Now they are saying you can change your mind and stay home or come back to school.

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I feel sorry for the really young children - e-learning is harder for those under 11 or 12.
I can attest to that, having a 7 and 10 year old.

When school switched over to virtual learning last March, I struggled establishing routines and getting actual instruction done. Having English NOT as my first language didn't help either Luckily it was mainly review of concepts (being the last quarter of the school year) and our teachers went above and beyond to help the kids (and parents) with zoom classes and such. Still, I am convinced they would have learned more if they had face-to-face instruction. And not to mention how much the kiddos missed seeing their friends and teachers!

Our schools are planning to reopen in August. First 2 weeks are planned to be half of the class on alternating days, but then back to "normal". However, considering that our State in general, and our county in particular, is a hotspot, plans may change in the next month...

And I am torn on if I would prefer e-learning or in-person. From a health perspective, e-learning wins hands-down. For us though, we struggle with time management. DH and I are considered essential personnel and work full time. One of us quitting is not an option (and with the current climate of layoffs everywhere I would be scared to quit anyway). Until June my employer allowed telework, but starting June 1st it was all hands on deck...
It will be fun to figure out a schedule that will allow for adequate teaching time and matches with our work schedules...
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My son is past school age but I still do mentoring and assistance with many kids as needed, when needed...
Schools here in my county went out 3/6 for school recess and never returned.
School year finished with internet long-distance instruction.

So this coming term is scheduled to open August 10...
Options of traditional, Team ELearning and Virutal/home schooled.
Traditional is just that...in school
Team E is the child will work from home but be teleported into the classroom and be "in-school", for a full days activities and time schedule followed
Virtual is home schooled setting where you set day, time and must meet academic guideline and assignments fulfilled by dates, but you would more at your pace...it is homeschooling period.

So changes I have heard about taking place...


Students will no longer change classes.
They will stay together as a unit and have as little interaction with others as can be accomplished.
Lunch is in your classroom, at your desk.
Gym class, not sure there will be any.
Music and enhanced things like chorus, band or orchestra...how do you sing, play wind instruments or sit closely together to learn to play as one with social distancing...
Classrooms will be set up to accomplish safe distancing as much as possible.
It was told no field trips, no clubs, no sports, no extra-curricular activities so least amount of interaction between students occurs to protect them.
Now see something about sports happening which makes no sense since then there is contact between kids in close proximity....

Transportation of those going to school is all are required to wear a mask, not take it off and if seen or caught they lose their ride effective immediately.

Also then to follow the rest of the bus rules to keep them safest during their ride.
Bus drivers will also be masked...for all riders from PK - 12 there are no exceptions.
Buses maximum capacity of 50 students is supposed to give "social distancing" makes "0" sense to me...
You can not put 50 kids on a bus and have adequate space between them with how a bus is configured inside..
Buses are to wiped down with disinfectants between runs and at end of each day...adds many hours of time to the day for every driver/aide to follow these guidelines.

Teachers will do virtual teaching even in the classroom as all students have laptops assigned to them already.
Teachers are concerned greatly of being exposed to those who are sick and then spreading further to their own families and ones considered high risk they are in contact with daily on a personal level...they have good cause for their apprehension.
Teachers are concerned if they are a no-symptom carrier they could be infecting as many as 30 students in their class...spreading illness further.

To me, in my state where we are in epidemic proportions of increases of sick the opening of school is one thing...
The allowing of students to return to school buildings is nuts...
Keep those kids home till holiday break of Christmas/New Years arrives...a few months away and hopefully by then this area has again got our rampant spread back under control, people have learned you truly can't party, protest and riot and not have repercussions of huge numbers of sick again happen.
Re-evaluate the severity of this virus situation then...if safe for children, staff, equipment and buildings to mix in close proximity then bring the community together to learn.
If that safe community can not be achieved then keep them apart so no one needs to hear of serious illness or death occurred...this virus is not just attacking the old anymore.

Inconvenient as it is for the adults to keep after their kids and indeed assist and help with learning material and assignments done, if my kid was of school age...being home "safely" removed from as much virus threat would be done in my household.
Since we can't see who is sick till really sick, to many hidden carriers then I have to look at everyone as a infected person who can make us ill...
We don't eat in restaurants, go to the beach, hang-out in stores and when I must go shopping it is me alone who goes wearing a face mask and gloves and it is me who carefully wipes down products coming into my home with cloth infused with disinfectant before putting items on the shelf or in the refrigerator.
Then since my shoes stayed in the garage, they are then disinfected, clothes washed and me showered...
So far some common sense and diligence has kept my home illness free and I aim to keep it that way...
So, if my kid was school-age, he would be home learning with a evaluation of returning to the building in January...not now.
That's me though..tough decisions to be made to fit every family and lifestyle need done.
Those with school-aged children I hope that options that work safely for you are offered.
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