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post #1351 of 1440 Old 04-22-2020, 04:05 PM
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They got that idea from Rush. He said it was common and this is the 19th one. No the 19 is from 2019 when it started.

I'm so tired of the stupidity. And this being as bad and lasting as long as it has because of it. We are going to reopen here with cases not slowing down. I'm tired of hearing people are tired of staying at home. Lowes being packed. Very little in there is essential. Maybe if your sink is spewing you need a new faucet or something. But that idiot on the news from Michigan sawing he couldn't get his fertilizer for his lawn. I did shipped right to me. If you are worried let it sit for a few days. It's grass, it's not essential.
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post #1352 of 1440 Old 04-22-2020, 06:44 PM
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Agreed. The level of stupidity of some people is appalling. It's so frustrating.
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post #1353 of 1440 Old 04-22-2020, 08:14 PM
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I have to say I'm a little baffled by how well it's going in my province.

We have not had any cases for six days now. Total infected: 118. Total negative tests: 11, 540 out of a population of roughly 777, 000. Most are now recovered and something like 6 were hospitalized, one in ICU. No deaths so far. Why?

I first thought people in my province (New Brunswick) were just doing a good job of staying apart, but watching the live press conference today on the Book of Faces where people could post comments makes me think there is no way people are smarter or better behaved here than anywhere else (seriously, the comments...). I mean sure, we have a small population and are largely rural, but so is Nova Scotia and they are not doing nearly as well. My kids tell me their friends are hanging out and posting selfies of themselves with groups of friends. My neighbors continue to socialize extensively. I went out to drop my car off at the garage for servicing and to get my summer tires put on (by law, I have to remove my winter tires by the end of April). I left it in the yard after hours and left my keys in the key drop. I have arranged for no-contact pick up when it's done. There were lots of cars out on the road - where is everyone going?

Naturally, the government is announcing that they will begin allowing some businesses to re-open if they can demonstrate that they are following social distancing rules. So nothing that involves close contact will open just yet. Schools, colleges and universities will remain closed.

Hubby thinks we are going to get hit hard. I just don't understand why we haven't been hit yet if people are just out there milling around, socializing. It would be great if things could go back to normal, but I fear we've largely been spared by some fluke, and that we will be even less prepared when it does hit. Or not??? Still so much we don't understand.
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post #1354 of 1440 Old 04-22-2020, 09:50 PM
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the 2 to 3 week delay of development of cases causes a great deal of difficulty in making a direct association between social distancing policies (or lack thereof), and the resultant case load.


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post #1355 of 1440 Old 04-23-2020, 01:00 AM
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@Acadianartist I am very confused as well. This virus is obviously very contagious. Just look at Italy and Spain. Serbians are very similar in behavior to Italians and Spaniards - cramped cities, lots of coffee shops, lots of kissing, lots of socializing, lots of multi-generation households. We had 300.000 come from the affected areas, which very much includes Italy, six weeks ago. And yet we “only” have 7.000 positive patients, 130 deaths. Despite our numbers growing, the number of people on respirators is dropping. It isn’t a case of no testing, our guys are testing extensively. We are getting something like 10% positive of the number of tested. I would think that the tests are wrong if it wasn’t for that dropping number of people on respirators. Very confusing. I guess researchers are trying to hit a moving target, with virus mutating and populations changing their behavior.
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post #1356 of 1440 Old 04-23-2020, 07:02 AM
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the 2 to 3 week delay of development of cases causes a great deal of difficulty in making a direct association between social distancing policies (or lack thereof), and the resultant case load.
Indeed. This weekend should be revealing since it is two weeks after Easter. I feel like people are getting more lax in my area due to the low number of cases. We'll see if they start going up again in the next few days. We may be experiencing a false sense of security at the moment.
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post #1357 of 1440 Old 04-23-2020, 10:54 AM
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-sigh-

Last week in Lansing, MI (the capitol, where I am living), thousands of people held a protest. These people were supposed to remain in their cars, but one by one, they trickled onto the capitol building's lawn and paraded the streets of Lansing. Some were carrying signs, some were fully outfitted with assault rifles and ammunition, and some were just there to be there. While they were 'exercising their rights', many people living in Lansing were afraid in their homes, listening to the orchestra of car horns and screaming.

I am so embarrassed for all of those people.

Now, there are more emerging cases of the virus in counties that previously had very few cases. Gee, I wonder if collecting in Lansing to protest helped with that? Our Governor was going to slowly start opening up the state this week. I didn't listen to her most recent talk, but I would be willing to bet that all of these selfish people are going to slowdown our state re-opening even further.

If that happens, I just want to know why they couldn't wait two weeks more and continue abiding by the rules set in place so hopefully things would start improving.



In other news, the "rescue" that I got one of my horses from has been posting on her personal page often about the virus. A few months ago now she shared a picture of Minnie and I on her personal and rescue page, without my permission, taken from my personal page. I didn't like this, but it didn't hurt anything, and at the very least showed I know my stuff. Well the combination of having a picture of me on her page and discriminatory posts about the virus, I officially told her to take down any pictures including me. I haven't read her response, and I'm not going to. I don't want to be affiliated with her in any way, especially if I want to ever start training horses ago. I support all fellow humans, not all fellow humans minus "the Chinese virus ones".

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post #1358 of 1440 Old 04-23-2020, 12:34 PM
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Another weird phenomenon I am seeing is all the kids who are supposed to be home-schooled are out working in fast-food (take-out only, but still) and grocery stores! I don't understand... when are they supposed to work on their school stuff? My kids' teachers are having daily Teams meetings and sending regular assignments. I'm also working on what I can with them while trying to do my own job as well. It seems people are treating this either as a big vacation or an opportunity for their teenagers to earn some pocket money. Which would be fine, except they're exposing them to the virus and teaching them that school work is not as important as getting a minimum-wage job in a grocery store.

My kids will be staying home for some time still.
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post #1359 of 1440 Old 04-23-2020, 02:11 PM
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Here in my rural county cases are slowly increasing. We are at 30 cases now and 3 deaths - and we are seeing and hearing a lot more grumbling about staying at home. More traffic, more people out - and it is scary. My son is one that is young and feels invincible and says he doesn't "care" if he gets it. The thing is I care if he gets it. His social life is suffering and that is all he can think about now. Meanwhile our state (IL) continues to see 1000 new cases per day - yes, most of these are Chicago and the suburbs but we know from when the virus first made appearances here that Chicagoans are not staying in Chicago.

A former co-worker posts daily on the book of faces about how her son is failing at the home schooling. He is a Sophomore in HS (16yrs old) and has convinced his parents that he did not understand the homework assignments for a few of his classes and could not get a hold of his teachers. Now he is failing quite a few classes and his ability to play sports this fall is in jeopardy. The mother is calling teachers out by name in her posts and blaming them for her sons failing. I get it, home schooling is hard and making time to make sure your kids are staying caught up is also hard. BUT even while my kids were in school our school made it easy to check on their progress and see whether their assignments were and how their grades were. I feel like I may be one of a very few parents who stayed on top of that. All the while working a full time job and traveling at least one week out of every six.

So many of the posts I see now just make me sad
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post #1360 of 1440 Old 04-23-2020, 02:26 PM
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@Acadianartist - I can't speak to the circumstances of the teens in your area, but locally, some have picked up work that offers "no contact" in order to help the family survive. Pizza delivery, tearing out or building fence on ranches, painting, are some that come to mind.

If a family's finances were marginal when the parents were working... Things may be dire now.

I grieve for the ill, those we've lost, and those who are suffering financially.
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