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post #131 of 1440 Old 03-10-2020, 04:38 PM
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The fact is they need to shut down all flights from out of the US. No one leaves the US no one can enter US if they've been out of US during this covid-19 out break.
Seems to me that would be shutting the stable door... weeks after the horse bolted. Should have been done immediately, but don't see much point now.
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post #132 of 1440 Old 03-10-2020, 04:44 PM
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lot of people realize that online classes are not an option for huge swathes of the US outside of urban areas, where internet is still slow, expensive, and/or unreliable if it's available at all.
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post #133 of 1440 Old 03-10-2020, 06:46 PM
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The time for containment is done past for this virus and all that is left is to wait and see how many will come down sick and how many will die.

In the news last week a girl flew back from Italy to Chicago, took an AmTrak train home to Missouri and went into self quarantine . Her Dad and younger sister then went to a Father Daughter dance at girls school. They then learned that the oldest daughter tested positive for the corona virus so they left the dance and went home. So how many did the traveling daughter and the father younger daughter infect and how many did those exposed to these people infect???? And this is only one example of people in self quarantine not staying isolated from the public. There are others who did the same thing.

Harvard is cancelling all classes for 14 days and going to do online classes ,, so what if one of the students makes contact with someone who is carrying the virus after 12 days and then attends classes the 15th day?

In the news today one of the passengers on the cruise ship that just docked in California is still testing positive for the virus after 30 days. All his symptoms amounted to was a cough and fever.

The city in China where the corona virus started is just 20 miles from a Chinese biohazard level 4 facility. So who knows whether they were working to find a vaccine to fight this strain escaped or were developing it as a weapon and it escaped or was let loose on the local population. The leading Chinese Dr. working on this virus died a while back from it. And the Chinese Government will not let hardly any information out to other countries.
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post #134 of 1440 Old 03-10-2020, 08:51 PM
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Does anyone have any info on whether this strain of coronavirus can infect horses? I thought not... did a search and found some sources saying it cannot (Covid-19, that is even though other strains can), but nothing that seemed to come from a medical or veterinarian source.

The barn where my daughter does lessons sometimes has told students coming back from spring break that they need to stay away for two weeks because the horses can get it. It doesn't affect me directly since we haven't left the country, but I'm curious now. The BO claims to have spoken to a provincial vet but I find it hard to believe. I know a dog was diagnosed in China though, so I'm now wondering if they're just not really sure.

Not trying to be alarmist here at all, just looking for confirmation that this cannot be transmitted human to horse.
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post #135 of 1440 Old 03-10-2020, 09:03 PM
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Does anyone have any info on whether this strain of coronavirus can infect horses? I thought not... did a search and found some sources saying it cannot (Covid-19, that is even though other strains can), but nothing that seemed to come from a medical or veterinarian source.

The barn where my daughter does lessons sometimes has told students coming back from spring break that they need to stay away for two weeks because the horses can get it. It doesn't affect me directly since we haven't left the country, but I'm curious now. The BO claims to have spoken to a provincial vet but I find it hard to believe. I know a dog was diagnosed in China though, so I'm now wondering if they're just not really sure.

Not trying to be alarmist here at all, just looking for confirmation that this cannot be transmitted human to horse.

My understanding(from what I've heard from vets, but they don't really know for sure either) is no, unless it mutates again it's not going to infect animals. The dog in China had the virus on it, like any surface would, not that it was infected with it.


Ultimately, I guess we don't know yet.
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post #136 of 1440 Old 03-10-2020, 09:31 PM
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DH has a bad sinus infection and went to the doctor this afternoon. Dr. is a friend of ours. He asked her if they'd tested anyone for COVID-19 and she laughed and said the protocol from the CDC was such a mess, it was going to get bad, and soon. In our area, at least, they aren't allowed to test even those with symptoms without CDC approval. So, if you call or report to a clinic or hospital with a cough and fever, they are supposed to have you leave, untreated, and then call the CDC from your home. The CDC will then decide if you are to remain quarantined at home, or are to be tested, or are supposed to self-report to the nearest containment unit with a bed. And you have to go on your own, as our area ambulance crews are all volunteer, and they are being told not to respond to any emergency call for fever/cough/respiratory distress, and instead to have those callers contact the CDC for instructions. And since there are TWO beds in the containment unit for everyone in a 100-mile radius, if they're full when you call, you don't get help, regardless of how sick you might be. The doctor has a daughter with a lung condition. She pulled her from school two weeks ago and sent her to stay with an aunt who lives on a ranch in western Nebraska for the forseeable future-- nobody goes in, and nobody out. She says it's only a matter of time-- a week, a month, who knows, before it explodes in the US because they are being told only the sickest people can be tested even though there are plenty of tests available, so there are likely thousands or tens of thousands of people nationwide who are walking around infecting others who will then infect still more. The whole thing is being swept under the rug by our esteemed government leaders in the hopes that 'warm weather will make it die down.' Which it likely will not do. Singapore and many areas where this is spreading rapidly are warm climates, and it seems to be making no difference in the spread. In rural areas, there just aren't enough containment units and/or ventilator capabilities in the medical facilities available, and people will be dying after being turned away from care.

This is worrisome. She's not usually an alarmist in the slightest, but she says this is extremely concerning, the government response has been appalling, ill people are going untested and allowed to continue infecting others, all in the name of 'preventing alarmism.' She said stock up on a few weeks' worth of essential supplies, don't go anywhere you don't absolutely have to, stay at least six feet from anyone, wash hands/sanitize obsessively, and hope for the best.

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Hullo! @Spanish Rider , here's the most recent update on the Australian (and general) situation by Dr Norman Swan, who runs our health report on the ABC. This is a decent, non-sensationalised source. Short video here:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-...check/12040538

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post #138 of 1440 Old 03-11-2020, 09:09 AM
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My eldest niece has been working as a teacher in Milan, N. Italy, she flew back to the UK at the weekend just before all travel was enforced. She and a fellow teacher are in isolation at her parents house whilst her parents are away for three weeks at their cottage in Wales.

This is self isolation not imposed by the government. Sensible thing to do.

Mind you, whether they will,still be friends after two or three weeks being cooped up together is another matter!

How about this for common sense?

A woman I know who is a catholic, went Mass on Sunday. It was announced that they were not to kiss the priest's hand, sensible.

Then they passed the chalice along the line which all were drinking from!
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post #139 of 1440 Old 03-11-2020, 09:42 AM
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It hasn't came to my county yet but Its in Alachua county Florida and im located in Bradford county. I really hope none of my family members get sick mostly my 98 year old grandma who has stage 4 .Praying so much
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post #140 of 1440 Old 03-11-2020, 10:13 AM
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New York- my mom had surgery last week they moved her to a rehab last night until she can get stronger and blood pressure regulated. My concern was if they would stop allowing visitors as I have been watching and it is what they are doing in nursing homes. I know she needs to make sure her blood pressure is regulated otherwise she will end up back in er which would be going backwards. I went to rehab to visit last night and they are checking people’s temps and making sure everyone uses hand sanitizers before they enter. I could not get in since they changed visits hours from 9:00- 9:00 to 9:00-5:00 due to prevention of the virus to patients. Today I called early this morning today and they are not letting any family/ friends visit at all to protect the patients from the virus - now I can understand cutting down risk to the patience it just is upsetting. I am also concerned if a health care worker does bring in the virus to the rehab if it will then be quarantined and she may be stuck there. I did get a letter from the school a worker was in contact with someone who was in contact with a positive with the corona virus. She had left the school and went home right away after she received a call from her friend. Test pending.

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