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post #611 of 1440 Old 03-20-2020, 08:02 PM
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Evidence it can cause severe lung damage even in people who have recovered is one reason. Others is that there is still so much we don't know, and it's also had plenty of deaths from the 'young and healthy' camp, so that's another reason.
Agreed. I wouldn’t disregard the primeval “ick” factor in this type of simulation either. Mind you, there is a well known phenomenon of “bug-chasers” in the gay cruising subculture - people who believe that they are certain to catch HIV and just want to get it over and done with. There is also a fetish component to it but it is unclear where one ends and the other begins. They aren’t particularly numerous, but they do exist and have been documented in scientific literature. I wouldn’t be surprised if there already are “Corona chasers” out there. As well as people deliberately spreading it (“Gift givers” they call it in the HIV bug chasing subculture) There are some serious outliers out there in the wild.
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Agreed. I wouldn’t disregard the primeval “ick” factor in this type of simulation either. Mind you, there is a well known phenomenon of “bug-chasers” in the gay cruising subculture - people who believe that they are certain to catch HIV and just want to get it over and done with. There is also a fetish component to it but it is unclear where one ends and the other begins. They aren’t particularly numerous, but they do exist and have been documented in scientific literature. I wouldn’t be surprised if there already are “Corona chasers” out there. As well as people deliberately spreading it (“Gift givers” they call it in the HIV bug chasing subculture) There are some serious outliers out there in the wild.
That's just... bizarre. And highly irresponsible.

However, I admit to having a discussion with my son tonight about how it wouldn't be such a horrible thing if we all had it and were fighting it right now. I have been coughing, and his forehead is warm, though not quite feverish (after seeing him through cancer, I've become a really good judge of whether or not he has a fever just by touching his forehead), and has been feeling off. Neither one of us is terribly sick, but we are strong and even though he just had chemo last year, he has proven that he has a remarkable immune system. If we got it now, while we are in social isolation and are not giving it to others, assuming our symptoms remain mild, we could recover and then be immune.

Because I do think there will be a second wave, and that it may be worse than the first. That's what the experts are saying.

On another note, I'm still reeling from the news that schools may not re-open here. I'm not sure what that means. We are only getting very enigmatic messages from the minister of Education that suggest they may send us instructions on how students will learn from home. I also have to continue to teach my university courses online. I am adopting a one-on-one approach to help them finish the term which means I am now teaching 50 courses to 50 students rather than one. So how I'm supposed to do this while teaching my kids from home is a mystery to me. But I'll get through it somehow. Some are in more dire straights than me.

My husband is still going to work. He has a court appearance on Monday (he's a lawyer). However, he posted a sign on his firm door that says he is not open to the public. Anyone wishing to meet with him has to call or email. I wish he could stay home, but our justice system cannot shut down. People can say a lot of bad things about lawyers, but the law still has to be upheld, and people's rights still have to be protected. The sad part: he is seeing a big spike in people wanting to write or update their will.
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post #613 of 1440 Old 03-20-2020, 10:51 PM
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As a current college student, I have to give a quick appreciative shout-out to all the professors doing their best to transition to online courses in less than two weeks. My university has completely switched over to online classes for the rest of the semester as well, which is particularly difficult in my biology classes with elaborate labs. Us students might be groaning about this whole online classes thing, but in reality, we recognize the professors are struggling right alongside with us and are putting themselves through so much for the sake of our education. Thank you!
Thanks for that. It is a lot of work. It is the only way that college in general can continue.

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post #614 of 1440 Old 03-21-2020, 12:16 AM
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My parents today let me know that the local donut shop back at home is now doing a "take a roll, leave a roll" system for TP. Buy a dozen donuts, get a few free rolls. Donate a few rolls, get a few free donuts. Pretty cool system, wonder if it's working! At the very least, keeping the shop afloat when fewer people are going out.

Veterinary hospitals here are still considered an essential service, so my job is continuing. However, our government (either local or state, don't remember) announced that veterinary hospitals are only to see sick and emergency patients. We have now cancelled ALL surgeries that are not to correct life-threatening emergencies. That also means we are not technically allowed to give vaccines. Pretty crazy, especially for the poor people who have puppies in the middle of their booster series right now. What are we gonna do, tell everyone we're forcing them to let their vaccines go overdue so they can come back in a few months and restart the series for twice the cost? The vets, including ours, have decided that's ridiculous and will continue to give vaccines (only the ones that are due or overdue - no new series or ahead-of-schedule vaccines), but will strictly do so curb-side.

Besides, PetSmart is still staying open to do grooming, so we're already losing clients and revenue through the people whose grooming appointments we cancelled. Not to mention revenue lost in all the surgeries and wellness appointments we've already cancelled. We don't want to lose our core clients over a few vaccines.

Today was our first attempt at lessening our hours. Open from 8am to 12pm. Wow, what a joke! We ended up staying open until 6pm keeping up with emergencies. Whoops. Guess we're not closing any time soon.
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God bless you for taking care of all the animals that need help. Seriously.
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post #616 of 1440 Old 03-21-2020, 10:41 AM
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I admit to feeling a little claustrophobic over this. Things here are getting worse, but in no way as bad as Spain or Italy. However, I was just thinking about how there is nowhere to escape this - and it made me feel a little....panicky.

I tend to practise a pretty isolated lifestyle anyway, but it is somehow different when you have to stay home.

I am questioning the things I should be doing; I have very little contact with outside people as it is.

I was chatting with a neighbor yesterday and mentioned something similar to what @Acadianartist said. That it would almost in some ways be better to have the virus and build an immunity to it. It almost seems inevitable that it will continue to spread. And I kind of thought that there were maybe some sickos out there like @Horsef mentioned that are actively TRYING to get it and spread it. I had heard some news on a potential vaccine, and that they were testing it. This reminds me of World War Z but without the zombies.

Our province declared a state of emergency earlier this week. I took a 1/2 day off work to go to Costco and register my truck. I wanted to get the registration done before they were no longer accepting walk-ins; but then learned that they were extending the registration date anyway. OH well, it is done now so one less thing to worry about later.

Costco wasn't bad, but sold out of a few things (TP, canned tomatoes, kidney beans). I did manage to get dog food but even those supplies looked low.

I think it is the unknown that is bothering me so much. There are no plans to look forward to as who knows how long this will go on for - I suspect a few months at minimum. I just feel blessed that my horses are at home so I can continue to spend time with them. I will still ride, etc on the property and down the roads, but I am now a little leery. The last thing I need is a fall and a trip to a hospital!

All schools were closed last week and it was determined at the end of the week that diploma exams were also cancelled. I believe the teachers are still working to try and develop some sort of plan....but as of right now all my friends with kids are just trying to find ways to entertain them at home.

My b/f is still working - in fact, he was sent out on a job out of town yesterday. Normally I am glad when he is gone, but with everythign going on it all of a sudden feels kind of lonely. Guess that is why this post is kind of rambly. lol.

My hat goes off to all the retail folks/grocery store people, hospital folks, truckers & farmers.
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Imperial College study just released shows peak of the virus in the US in late May/early June with another wave likely in the fall unless a vaccine is found. They emphasize that testing everyone and only allowing those who have tested positive and then test negative after recovery to return to the workforce is essential.

It's March. Three more months until it peaks. I'm so scared I'll never see my parents again... both are older, dad has health issues... this is so hard.

All of the anti-vaxxers out there saying they would refuse a vaccine even if one is found mean a vaccine in the US is not as likely to be effective as in other countries where you don't get a choice as to whether you get vaccinated.
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Agreed. I wouldn’t disregard the primeval “ick” factor in this type of simulation either. Mind you, there is a well known phenomenon of “bug-chasers” in the gay cruising subculture - people who believe that they are certain to catch HIV and just want to get it over and done with. There is also a fetish component to it but it is unclear where one ends and the other begins. They aren’t particularly numerous, but they do exist and have been documented in scientific literature. I wouldn’t be surprised if there already are “Corona chasers” out there. As well as people deliberately spreading it (“Gift givers” they call it in the HIV bug chasing subculture) There are some serious outliers out there in the wild.
This is the craziest thing I have ever heard! anyone that sets out to intentionally infect others should be locked up and refused any but the basic treatment. They are a danger to themselves and others
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All pubs, restaurants and cafes are now closed.

I went down to the butchers in the town as I do every Saturday, I collect hos scrap for the dogs. Normally he starts to pack up around 1.45 but when I arrived at 1.30 the shop was completely cleared and washed down. He had sold out totally.

People had been coming in and buying whole trays of meat. Good for his business not good for me as I wanted some stewing steak. Still, I will not starve.

Charity shops in town are closed until further notice.

Aunt wanted some paracetamol as it helps her leg pain, none to be had in town but the store near where I walk the dogs did have some so I got her a couple of packets.

People are frightened, that's for sure.
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post #620 of 1440 Old 03-21-2020, 11:25 AM
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Imperial College study just released shows peak of the virus in the US in late May/early June with another wave likely in the fall unless a vaccine is found. They emphasize that testing everyone and only allowing those who have tested positive and then test negative after recovery to return to the workforce is essential.

It's March. Three more months until it peaks. I'm so scared I'll never see my parents again... both are older, dad has health issues... this is so hard. .
this is hard on everyone, but we need to stick with the plan unless some other treatment is found.

This country, or should say the world, now needs to be computer active and use virtual technology to stay in touch. It can work to slow the spread, leaving resources available for those who need it. We can do this, there is no other choice.
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